Hi Thanks for your help Guys you were all right I took the head bend off and made the neck sections thicker Looks good now. I have even made the Jaw open and close, But... Well I need help again... Now eyes I move the head and the poor thing is so supprised his eyes pop out! Ok well 1st idea i had was make eyes same group as Head, but if I do this does it mean more remapping phi editing and joint fixing, if it does is there a simple fix (eys don't need to move. Thanks again Dave

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heyas; oh good! check my site for the eye jp's tutorial, that will help you out with your new problem. :)