Hi I finaly finished remaping and jointing the Plesiosaur model from 3d Cafe. Don't know what I'm going to do with it except use it myself as I still haven't found the person who made the original lightwave mesh. I've e-nailed all the sites I've found it on but still no reply. I downloaded RTEncoder last night but haven't had a chance to try it out , kind of worried incase it ruins joint set up etc Oh well now giong to play :-) see ya Dave