ablc opened this issue on Aug 06, 2002 ยท 13 posts
ablc posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 2:49 PM
gebe posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 4:34 PM
Not bad for a first image Laurent. Are you using the Demo version? In this case it will not be helpfull for you if I give you some advises... Did you import the Poser scene into Vue ? In what format did you save the image?
ablc posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 5:00 PM
The pic was saved in jpeg.
Something strange : The same file rendering with poser give a different result for the same resolution.
The skin is more hairy under poser, but it could be light problem.
Another question, How could I position precisly the light (x,y,z coords)?
Thanks to help a newbie
Laurent
gebe posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 5:09 PM
What is your Vue version exactly? To know, open Vue, click HELP-->ABOUT VUE D'ESPRIT (in french: AIDE--->A PROPOS VUE D'ESPRIT) from the top menu. What do you read exactly? (VERSION and BUILD?) When I have this answer, I can tell you exactly how to behave:-)
gebe posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 6:06 PM
I'm very surprised Laurent, you just bought Vue this afternoon and already got it. As you cannot download it, how did you do this wonder? Even in Paris, you have to wait the postman:-)
Kelderek posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 4:26 AM
The different rendering results in Vue and Poser looks like quite normal "natural causes" due to the different rendering engones in Poser and Vue. Poser has a quite simple line renderer, Vue has a ray tracing rendering engine. They handle light very differently, and you will find that you have to adjust light setting and even the positioning of the lights to get similar results, if it's even possible to get similar results!
ablc posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 6:11 AM
Ok, but it seems to me the imported object is not on the same scale but a bit smaller. Is it an illusion or true ? For gebe, you can find Poser, Vue, 3DS and other in all fnac in France or Surcouf. The price is the US with 30euro more, except for Poser (seems to be a general problem with his product in euope). The release sold is 4.0x upgraded with e-on 4.1 full upgrade. Some Demo (the numer 22 in folder demo1) won't load and complain about missing stuff. Is it always the case or should I get something more ? I didn't find any additional components(?) in the site. See ya
Kelderek posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 6:25 AM
Do you have the same focal lengths for the cameras used in Poser and Vue? Different focal lengths can make it look like the figures are differently scaled compared to the background. I think that both Poser and Vue defaults the focal length to 35 mm when you load a new scene, though.
ablc posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 6:28 AM
ok, i will check that...
gebe posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 6:34 AM
The "missing stuff" of demo (sample)files are all on the Extra CD. I'm not sur you mean demo or sample??? The scale of imported objects is in relation to the general "world" in Vue which is different to the Poser "world". Just resize it. To position lights exactly, select the light, then click at top of the material window on the center tab (the one showing a sort of a ruler). Once inside there, try to cklick at the small icons close to it, they allows you to do more fine tuning. Save images from Vue in BMP and convert them later into JPG. This gives better end-results. Or save directly from Vue to TIF. For lights on people, as well on inside as on outside views use spotlights. They work the best. Make most of them shadowless, to keep only one or two lights casting shadow. Otherwise you will get the kind of your second image above, nearly without shadows, a little flat and lifeless. Shot down the sun, if needed.
gebe posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 6:38 AM
Poser default cam is 25 and Vue 35:-)
Kelderek posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 6:51 AM
Thanks Guitta, I knew that the Poser default cam has a focal length that is totally unsuitable anyway ;-) I have set my Poser to load a 50 mm camera as default, much better!
ablc posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 6:52 AM
thanks. In fact, i just realise the pic looks different regarding the monitor I used. At home, i'm working with laptop and all pics are very light... I will try that when back at home... not really a good place to play with poser and vue at office ;) Laurent