No offense, but I can tell you that I'll be thrilled when P5 finally hits the shelves....the reason?...so maybe we can go back to talking about something else. I can't tell you all how invaluable and appreciated all the info I've gotten here has been in helping me understand the lil quirks of P4, and I expect it to be the same with P5. I figured out the 1st day here that I'd finally found a place where everyone seemed to know more than me, and were happy to help. But how many more inanely repetitive P5 threads can there be? "I wish it had this...I wonder if it'll have that...etc"....Jeeez Guys...some things are as certain as rain....it'll come out...we'll get it...I won't understand it...and I'll continue leeching off your knowledge about it..lol(but at least I might have NEW questions) Sorry...I just miss when there was more to pick up here than P5/CL threads... Whew...am I glad THAT'S over....I feel better now....nevermind...:) Beav