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Hi there, i do not often post a message in here, but this evening i surfed the web (looking for new bryce sites as usual) and i found a new Bryce forum site. maybe it's just old news but anyway, I checked it out and it contains some interesting stuf.the adress is: http://www.bryce-alive.net/ My second comment/remark is this: once a week, mostly on friday/ saterday, I check out the Bryce free stuff section on renderosity, I upload some stuff, download some stuff, but lately I notice that less and less people are submitting their work (materials,skies or objects)...How Come? first I thought "well, no one is visiting the free stuff section" but this morning I submitted a new zip-file (4tech) and this evening it got over 100 downloads, just in 1 day, so over 100 people visited the site! So please submit your stuff...I like the competition and second I could always use some new stuff that goes with my image bye, Denny (StarDust)