I was sitting on the bus the other day looking round at the other passengers when I realised why to me all poser figures look false.. look at your arms. see the fine body hair? you don't see it at a distance that well.. but it adds to the effect you see... hands and feet.. see the radial bones? one thing I've never see in any poser figure... also we have many wonderful textures.. but remember.. the one thing thats almost universally missing.. veins! yup veins! I've not seen any texture yet that has them.. think on these points.. got a feeling that they won't be in P5.. maybe P6? ;) Kai