I have Photoshop 5 and Paint Shop Pro 6 and want to use these programs to develop art with paint-like effects. On other forums, however, I've been told that I need Painter to truly do this. My question is, surely with Photoshop's brushes, masks, filters, tools, etc. I could achieve the same "painter" detail without having to buy another program like MetaCreation's Painter ... right ? Or, am I missing something here -- does Painter offer something that I cannot achieve within the realm of PhotoShop alone ? Thanks for your help - Ken