Hi Everybody. I just saw something new on the egisys website this morning: special price Upgrade Poser 4 to Poser 5 in between 30 days after appearance of Poser 5: 140,- Euro incl. vat after this periode: 229,- Euro incl. vat Apparantly this is for the Poser4 without ProPack upgrade to Poser5. Since this is the first time we European customers get a good price for Poser, let's make sure that nobody misses this offer :-) I assume that it's valid for the 30 days from that unknown release date somewhere in september. Also there is no further information on where or how to order. I've just mailed them about it. I'll post in this thread when I get an answer. Thanks to Egisys/Curiouslabs for finally charging us a nice price too. :-) BTW if you click on the "upgrade now" picture you will only get prices in british pounds instead of Euro as it should do for the Netherlands and Germany. I mailed them about that problem too.