I just want to thank John for sharing his great dress. I know I will put this to good use. Well I haven't found the 12th Century fabric site yet, but I'm looking. I want to tex map this as acurate as possible. So The tex maps are also VERY MUCH WIP I did however attempt to add a hip belt/sash (needs lots of improvement). Now where am I going to get a mantle ;-) Thanks again John! James