I've discovered an interesting problem in a couple of pieces of conforming clothing, the lace up boots from Billy T. Here's the situation and how it arrises. I load the character, bend the feet and toes, load the boots and conform each. No problems so far and they look great. Pose the character, no problem , usual tweeking here and ther still no problem. Now trying to spin the character with IK turned off (I've tried it with IK on as well) you'll notice that at 45 or -45 on the Y rotate the tops of the boots start to deform, at 90 still more and at 180 they are twisted and no ammount of tweeking can fix it. As you get to 181 degrees the twist switches over to it's mirror untill it gradually returns to normal at 360 degrees. Doing the same experiment with the boot alone and spinning it with Y rotate the same problem occurs. The inherant problem seems to reside with the thight portion of the boot. Has anyone else encountered the same problem? If so what would the fix be? I'm on Poser 4PP 4.2.0 I've also encountered a simil;ar problem with Victorias Sheath dress when on a figure at 180 degrees. Looking forward to any insite on this. Thanks!

hey, i only noticed this recently as well... not quite sure yet why. awaiting response from someone who's fixed it... where's that Jaager fella?

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I think it's a quirk in Poser 4 itself. Try the following: Load Posette and the women's T-shirt. Conform the shirt to Posette. Disable IK on her legs, or otherwise things will get even uglier in a moment. Okay, ready? Select Posette's hip, and set the Side-Side dial to exactly 180 degrees so she's upside down. Watch what happens to the shirt. Try it with Bend and Twist, also. Now try it with different clothing items. For some reason, the bikini top, biker shorts, and miniskirt work okay. I no longer have a clue why, although I still suspect that IK, or the lack thereof, might be a factor.

the ik chains themselves are based in the hip section, even with them off the rotate and twist use the chains to keep everything together. if you select the body when rotating or twisting it shouldn't happen, but with a body part selected it is moving in relation to the hip, even if you select the hip.

The bikini top, biker shorts, and miniskirt don't have IK chains at all. Neither does Ghastley's overcoat for Posette, as far as I can tell, but it still deforms (quite dramatically) at 180 degrees.

I'm doing all my turning with body selected. AND I've tried turning just the hip. Nice to see I'm not alone with this sort of thing.

Actually checked it out and nope they don't have IK.. Way to solve the problem.. Do not rotate the hip.. but rotate the body if you are going to rotate more than 45 degrees. Poser 4 quirk definately..

I had it happen with one of Traveler's punk thorny arm braces, I regularly revolve my figures to check them, usually without clothes, but this was nearly without. The thornes went wacky and curved on me. I never could get them right, had to turn the armband around so most didn't show and then smudge, smudge, smudge. Emily

heyas; okay, that's a new one on me. might want to post your observations over at the poser tech forum; this is the kind of things the techs love to investigate ;) although i haven't seen this happen with moving the hip/body, i have seen weird twists that appear and disappaer when you move body parts. and the way we fixed that was to give each body part a very slight initial twist. double click the part's twist dial and enter .001, and then memorize the figure. see if that fixes it. (whichever part is twisting up. if it's all of 'em, do it with all of 'em.)