Recently Curious Labs has been the subject of frequent and emotional discussion. Most of this has revolved around Poser 5's EULA and copy protection system. Some of us agree with CL's choices in this regard while others find them distasteful, to say the least. Either view is fine and a worthy subject of discussion. What is not fine, in my opinion, are the unecessary and unsubstantiated remarks questioning CL's integrity or corporate intelligence. It has even been suggested that their intent was to bury this matter in the hopes users would not discover this too quickly. This despite the fact that they made the P5 user manual available for download and actively encouraged people to do so. The EULA appears very near the beginning of this document and no attempt was made to conceal or omit it. CL has consistently encouraged open discussion of their products and has frequently stated their reasoning for internal decisions even though they are under no legal or ethical obligation to do so. In the past they have even ceded to public wishes, a rare event in the corporate world. Poser is their product and they may market it as they see fit. While I may personally feel strongly against their copy protection system I am not privy to the complete circumstances that led them to this choice. My primary interest is "what is good for me?" while their interest is "what is good for them?" and that is as it should be. The bottom line is that we can't always get what we want when we want it. It would be nice if we could but the world just does not work that way- too many conflicts. So please, by all means continue the discussion but in a non-hostile manner. Anger serves nobody but itself. - Jack