I got him!! (a friend asked how I know it is a him!? er..just a guess!) He is FANTASTIC and the possibilities are limitless from what little I have played with him.. BUT I had to do a lot of preparation and careful handling after he crashed my machine a couple of times (after I closed Poser 4 no less! - too much map, not releasing resources!) I have an AMD GIG cpu and 512 MB ram... First I carefully told poser to make all the main bump jpg's into bum files (just the one's the "all green map" seems to ask for) and saved THAT cr2 dragon... then I went out of Poser, did a restart just to be safe, and opened photoshop. I opened the head and body maps (separatly, they are huge!!!) and I reduced them by 50% in size (after backing up my mil dragon texture folder.. which I eventually found in DAZ animals-mil dragon folder). I of course left them at the 300 dpi.. just reduced the overall size. That greatly reduced the file size of the map. Then I went back into Poser, and brought my mapped dragon into the scene... and looked at him close up... very nice! :) And so much easier to manage for my system! I then tested the process by closing poser, and openening photoshop, and all went smoothly, no lock ups! whew! I took this all one step further and did some careful selecting on the head, body and wing map (and the tail spade which I like the best) and did some "hue" changes to see if I could get some different colors of dragon! Worked pretty well.. but would be SO much easier to buy the map pack set, I am thinking! I did not check, but would hope the map pack set has a MAT file for each.. I would obviously still have to reduce the size of the maps if I were to buy those...(and deal with the BUM requests). My system (hard drive, mother board and video card too) are pretty high end and to have them choke up is not fun. All in all, of all the dragons (and I think I have nearly all of them!) this fellow is the ultimate creature that I will just love using!! The dials work so well and the range of motion for each body part is fantastic! Oh, purchasing at DAZ went smoothly yesterday, but still uncomfortable with the "no padlock" thing.. even though I read DAZ's posting on this matter... no padlock, no "notice" that you are moving to a secure page... I always use an "on line card" that has a low limit just to be safer for any on line purchase. Lyne Lyne's Creations

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