Attached Link: The Eternal Night Life

Third Times a Charm...Sorry... Hey Everyone... For the past couple of weeks I have seen the rising of the animators!!!...or as Bobasaur put it so nicely...The Posimators... How about we make it official!?! To the following post your number here!!! Now...I would be cautious...I myself would wait for the founding animators to officially take their numbers and I'll sneak in somewhere around 13-14... As soon as the Fellowship as entered in full I will dedicate a page to each and everyone of you on my site with a quick bio with some interests and some motivation to all newbies...if it's okay with you guys... So let it be said...(he grinned looking in the eyes of men and women who spent countless hours in front of their beloved screens...their..."precious"...hint, hint...) Come forward Posimators and finally make it official!!!

no not 13

Little_Dragon
Posimator #11.3 (working his way up toward a whole number)

Bio:
Born in the moors of southern England in 1182 AD; relocated from France to the Americas in the late 1800s due to profound lack of living space in Europe. Currently residing in a cave in the woods, exact location -- none of your business.

Interests:
Enjoys cats and Holsteins (although not in the same way), sci-fi and fantasy, anime, and long flights on dark, cloudy nights; dabbles in digital video, sketching, and 3D graphics; and is fascinated by small, shiny objects.

Ok..... third times a charm. Wish it worked that way with the softball animations I have been working on :) EdW Posimator #6.something

I'm a totally newbie, but cool! I want to get into animations. I'll take 13 if nobody else wants it and you'll let me have it.

I'm 13

Ah, so your objection was because it was taken, not that you hate 13. Okay, I see.

Alias Angel I asked bobasaur for 13 a while back. so technically I'm thirteen of twelve in the Borg nominclature. I was waiting respectfully for the twelve to sign in, but I had to speak up before someone grabs my designation. - TJ

Hmmm, this is tricky! Can we be more egalitarian?

How do you know what your number is? I've been animating in Poser 4 (off and on) since it came out. I just couldn't understand it and was never any good at it, so I rarely took part in any threads about it. So what would my number be? (Please don't say Zero, that's my wife's number for me.) Jackson (still waiting on that tut from Bobasaur)

If this also includes Poser animation that's imported into other applications, I suppose you can include me along with the other spline enterpolated contortionally disfunctionalized animation makers. (snicker!)

Well, I probably should be in this list. Though I never do "stories", most of my serious work in Poser involves animations to illustrate scientific subjects. In my not-so-serious work, the emphasis is always on mechanics and dynamics, never on a pretty render.... my contributions here have been either Python scripts to control movements, or props with moving parts.

My python page
My ShareCG freebies

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=845695

I remember bikermouse asking about being 13 back in the thread that I've just listed. The first thread I could find listing Posimaters is linked to in my original posting there. best I could tell, I was 7th of the 12 mentioned. I also think it's only fair to reiterate that there are "The Elder Ones" like Joe Glover. As I counted the list, little_dragon was actually number 6 - it was his mention of my name that reminded Wolf to include me in the list. However, if he wants to be #11.3 it's fine with me. I've done some checking since I posted the "I am 7 of 12" thread and I'm pleased to report that I still look good in form-fitting, tight clothing. That is, if you like the kind of forms I fit.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Please bear in mind that there may have been something I missed somewhere but this was the best I could find to explain where "the 12" came from (I was out for a few days and when I came back there were references to "the 12 Poser animators"). If I missed something please let me know. Although I kinda like the "7 of 12" designation I would sacrifice it for the truth - or a mutually agreed upon legend that we all agree to fabricate and spread. The only original thing I really did was coin the term "Posimator"

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

I'm steering clear or the 1-12 thing. Bikermouse seems to have snagged 13, so I'm good with 14 unless AlisasAngels uninformed bid to scoop 13 from Bikermouse bumps him to 14 by default, at which point I'm hoping for an official #15 designation.

Okay...let's make this a little harder... In order for you to have a number, you have to have made an animation. Something simple, nothing more than 1.3 MB. I will host all of them on my site and I'll make a poll and have the viewers vote on the best one... It's only fair if you consider yourself #1 or 13# it should really reflect on your work as I think that being # 1 on the list everyone will be asking you for advise... But, that's just me...What do you guys think?

This way from good to okay to really needs help. You'll be able to distinguish yourself. What good is a number if you don't have any work to back it up...

Ummm... guess 15 is up for grabs. I'll try to have something up to the "Really Need Help" class in a week or so... but I'll be back!!

Cat, I'd talk to Wolf about that since he's a founder. Also, timeteo1 and several of the others who've claimed numbers but haven't dropped in on this thread. Links to works were given in the thread I linked to in my "I am 7 of 12" thread. Do you actually have anough space to host that many animations? Also, FWIW, I've tried to give the Renderosity a break after Dragon*Con - I know they've been quite busy between the Magazine Release and the Convention. I plan on hitting one of the Admin Forums (probably the Community Ideas) within the next week and starting a campaign for an Animation Gallery. My thought is that it could be set up so that we can upload a poster frame (still) with a description and a link. The link would lead to the actual animation stored somewhere besides the Renderosity servers. I think this would provide a central place for us to find each others' animations yet not cost Renderosity server space ($$$$$). It's an idea.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Attached Link: http://homepage.mac.com/kflach

BTW, some of my work can still be found at this link. QuickTime is required.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Well, when you're all done slugging it out for number 13, I'll try and sneak in at the end. All I have are a couple of stupid bryce animations. But...as long as there are days ahead, I just may do some Poser animations.

Attached Link: http://www.3up3dn.com/kayak05a.avi

Cat Here's a link to my kayak animation. You can link to it or add it to your site. No problem either way. This is the Divx version. Also a QT version http://www.3up3dn.com/kayak05.mov Ed

Attached Link: http://www.1st-shock.com/sensual.htm

Well, here's one of mine, as you'll see it's not mocap, it's key-framed. You'll obviously need to put a nudity tag on it...

I never thought there was an actual list of "12 animators." I always figured it was a joke referring to the lack of animation-related subjects here at Rosity. I don't know who started the joke but I think that's what happened. So who knows how many Rosity members animate? I don't. That being the case, I'll take number 99. (Because it's been a favorite of mine for years and '69' would be too obvious.) And if you're going to judge by quality or knowledge of animations, it would be a fair number for me, I think. STILL waiting on the tut from Bobasauer.

A 3D shockwave file, not enough has been done with this format: Mannikin

You're right Jackson, it did start as a joke. But, since animation in Poser gets such little attention it's pleasant to be able to show some work...

...im a newbie i guess. so i dont know what the heck were even doing here!!! I guess i'll be whatever number is left...

cat, That thing about hosting sounds good, but bandwidth even at 1.3 megs seems like it would be a problem. But if you're up to it bandwidth wise, I'm game. What was the URL again? bob, that's an exellent idea. I noticed that right now renderosity only handles animated gifs, though. is there a good avi to gif converter that is free or really close to it? at this point in time I don't have a lot of money to spend on it. - TJ

I don't know if Mimic assisted animations comply, but here's my entry using Lemurtek's Guenevere (for whom I supplied the phoneme morph targets) and Tonyo1701's bridge station. Note: You'll need the DivX 5 codec to play the clip. If we can arbitrarily choose our numbers, I's like 42 (yes, I'm a Hitchhikers' fan), but I'll take whatever you grant. I hope I qualify.

Tempt the Hand of Fate and it'll give you the "finger"!

I will post an animation tonight that will astound, I think.

It would be great if we could have a place to sign in, so that our numbers will be undisputable. I'm probably in the 20's or so. ben

Attached Link: The Eternal Night Life

Hi Guys.... Well..the response that we've gotten is incredible. I do have to remind you though that the website is mainly to give newbies a place to go and take a look at a great animations. I will not be hosting every single one that you make....It has to be nicely made and obviously isn't going to be super large in size... That way...everyone can get hosted and have a place to have people see their great work. I'll pay more for bandwidth if I have to... The things that your willing to do for you guys...huh... P.S. A new animation will be posted within the next hour or so...I definitely recommend you checking it out... It's not made in Poser, but Animation Master but still worth seeing... CAT

I'll get to work straightaway this midnight and make a brand new posermation. bear in mind I'm using barebones Poser 4. Any particular subject ?

How about some gymnastics?

Hmm, tail might get in the way but I'll see what I can come up with. I'll see if I can find that old Bruce Tegner book for a reference.

I would like to reserve my place as "Animator X " I was animating on day 1 when I got poser and it amazed me that I seemed to be alone. I thought it was the whole point of poser..... anyway, most of my animations have been for my own amusment... But I like CAT's idea of sharing the wealth of knowledge... It would have been a great help to me when I started. So go ahead and pick numbers.... Lets get to the High six figures....... I just want to be X =0)

Attached Link: Snapshots Animation

Has anyone seen the new animation posted at the site called "Snapshots" yet?

Uh oh... something seems to be wrong with the Snapshots file I downloaded. The file displays a blank screen throughout playback. I opened it with both Windows Mediaplayer, and DivX; same thing. Haven't seen this happen before and thought I should mention it.

I was able to convert itsuccessfully for the Mac using divX Doctor 2 with the exception of the audio, which was broken up and scratchy. That said; WOW! Beautifully done! Outstanding story and animation work!!!!!!!!!!! p.s. Jackson, As of tomorrow, my time should open up pretty significantly. I know I was talking a month or so but I may be able to get to that tutorial sooner than I'd expected.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Snapshots ran perfectly fine on my PC with DivX 5.0.2 Pro and Windows Media Player 6.4. My congratulations to the author! Excellent work. Had me wondering what those flying globs were, until the very end.

Bob, I didn't recall you mentioning a time frame, my bad. I was expecting it in a day or so. Silly me. What are you going to cover?

Sorry about that...I should have mentioned the file type. It should run perfect like Little Dragon said the DivX 5.0.2. The file is in .AVI format. You can visit the creator's website for a quicktime streaming video. CAT

cat, I looked at the jets one. An amazing amount of 'footage' and aound for that small a file. I'm amazed at the compression !!! - TJ

aound = sound

L.D., if I recall correctly, Media Player is up to 6.9 now, as I upgraded yesterday. You might check with MS on that. - TJ

With a good compositing program, or even just working smart by placing a still image on a moving plane behind your animation you can really expand what you do. Moving stills are a wonderful thing and are often a lot easier to aquire than moving footage.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

All,

Well I don't know about this html stuff. I got a free website at angelfire but I'm having trouble finding the code which will allow me to display animation on it.
so . . .
If you're really interested here's the URL. It's just the intro to Harry Teaches Kung Fu and my first animation on the web. You will probably end up downloading the zip file as I say I'm not sure I got the
code right to allow you to view it on the web.

It's short about six seconds ... but ...
If it's any good I'll try to update it with some exercises
taught by Harry or somebody else. Harry is Gerald Day's character, so we'll see if he can be replaced by someone mouseier as time goes by.

-TJ

You got the code right, bikermouse. I was able to click and view both versions of the animation (DivX and MPEG) in Media Player. The sound seems to be muffled; I'm not sure if that's intentional. I know about Media Player 9, but haven't downloaded the latest versions because a) they won't work in Win98 First Edition, and b) they're bloatware.

I had no problem with the MPEG using QuickTime on a Mac.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Cool. Was the character interesting or boring? Does a similar character have a furure or are all the 'Harry types out there''s best days behind them? Feel free to comment. It's the only way I'll get better. - TJ

Well, RL has decided to keep me from playing with Poser, so I'm going to drop out of the battle over the 13 slot. Maybe I'll deck it out for 113 later, who knows.

AliasAngel, There are many interesting numbers out there. two examples are 3 point one four(Pi) or 6 point 02 to the minus 23rd power (Avagadro's number) cheers and thanks, - TJ

Avagadro's number? Since when do slimy green fruits have numbers? I'm not familiar with the "Harry" character. It's funny, you said something about making him "mouseier" and I found myself watching him imagining him with big ears. His face and expressions were such that I was dissappointed that I couldn't hear him - I wanted to know what this guy was saying. He doesn't look like a normal Kung Fu teacher so I was intrigued. I would have preferred more motion of his upper right arm but I though the almost unconscious secondary motion of his left hand was a good touch. It added some reality. People never stand 100% still. If you're going to continue with this (I hope so) you could shift his hips just a little from side to side and maybe slowly (and in very small increments) rotate or bend them to give the illusion that he's shifting his weight. This is very nice for a first one. All the things I mentioned are nuances that are for a non-beginner. Bobasaur (I am 7 of 12)

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Bob, (He He)Avagadro not avacado. As far as the sound goes I didn't amplify the output enough. My mic is really cheap and I live in an apartment with thin walls so I don't want to get my voice too loud so as not to disturb my neighbors - I'll work on the sound though. If you turn the volume up most of the way you should be able to hear "My name is Harry and I'm gonna teach you ... Kunnng Fu." I like the subtile motion idea, I'll try to impliment that in the next version of Harry or Whoever.Uliimately I'd like to see him breathe as well.(saw a tut on this once using magnets.) This is Gerald Day's character so I won't go further with Kung Fu Harry without his aproval, but if Gerald says it's ok with him I'll continue - otherwise I'll just have to come up with my own old guy. (I've IM'd Gerald so he can see what I've done with Harry so far.) Thanks for the comments. I'll work with them. glad you like Harry, - TJ

Attached Link: http://www.digidesign.com

If you're really wanting to work with sound you might consider downloading "Pro Tools Free" from the Digidesign website. It's a *fully* functioning version but has a limited number of tracks that can be used (8 audio, 48 MIDI). That number is way too small for a professional Audio suite but for people like us it's excellent.

One of the functions it (and many other audio packages) has is called "normalization." You can apply it to a sound file and it will analyze and then raise the volume of the sound file up to the point just below where clipping (distortion) would occur. It's best when you can record things optimally but this is a wonderful alternative.

You could record and edit a voice track, put music and sound effects behind it, and change the volume of the individual elements as required. You can also equalize (add bass or treble), change the pitch, reduce noise and apply a number of other effects.

I've heard that there are a couple of glitches in the Windows version, but I also know that there are so many PC configurations that nothing works perfectly for everyone. I think that info came from Little_Dragon in another thread and he had something he recommended instead. I know Pro Tools is the "Studio God of Audio" but check around. The voice you use for your characters can have a very dramatic impact on how their personality comes across as well as everything else.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Bob, I've already got Magix Pro(64 tracks video and audio) but it has a steep learning curve I always get lost in it and say arrgh I'll just use cool. For MIDI and Wav songs I've got a prog From Voyetra That I like, but It's a little archaeic and doesn't play well with the other children(wav drivers.) Thanks, I'll give DigiDesign a try - for voice editing 8 tracks should be adequate. A big one is going to be updating my microphone. - TJ

Yep. Mikes are critical!

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Audio? Did someone ask about Audio?....... This is my Rig..............cool ain't it }=0)

Bob, unfortionately the free software you sugguested doesn't work in XP it's for 98/ME only. Oh well. Right now I'm researching whether I can sue my landlord for harrasment under Ca section 1954 and the quiet something or other this might take a while, but it looks as though I may have a case. She harrasses all the male tenants in the building, repeatedly wants to come in just to be nosy etc I pay my rent and am quiet. perhaps too quiet for her. I guess she thinks I'm up to something. I only wish I were up to something that would get me outta here in a good way. So far I have a form that will threaten lawsuit for illegal entry, and have read that I can place a restraining order on her. Anyway a lot of my time is gonna be tied in with this for a couple of days, but I'll check back if anyone has anything to say regarding sound or whatever. now I wish I were a lawyer, - TJ

Attached Link: http://homepage.mac.com/kflach

I believe Jerr3D is a lawyer but I don't remember what kind. Sorry about the wrong version. TallyJC - do you have anything online I can hear? I'm working with a Korg X3 and a bunch of Yamaha DX-7 generation synths. Mark Of the Unicorn's Digital Performer is my sequencer (it's Mac only so you may not be familiar with it). All of the QuickTime videos at the link have my original music in them.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Bob, I'll get through it. The quiet tenant statute and consructive eviction subsections of Ca. 1954 were very revealing. It appears that if I can prove my claims in a court of law my apt. manager could be in BIG trouble, and not allowed to work in housing/management ever again. So in the words of A.E.Neuman "What me Worry?". The hard part is to get it before a judge that actually believes in tenants rights. Tally, I didn't see the pict the first time. It is obvious that you do not live in an apartment!! Good for you. A nice "Rig" BTW. - TJ

oops I almost forgot. I contacted Gerald and he says DAZ informed him that there may be copyright issues with Harry, so Harry's out of the picture for now. Darn every good idea has a brick wall around it. I'll have to contact DAZ and see what the issue is. I suspect that it's that CR2 thing again. I think it would probably be easier timewise to come up with my own morph, so I'll do that too. I only hope that I am up to it. cheers, - TJ

re: Harry and a new morph Just don't forget to have some fun.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

Bobasaur.... Sorry no I don't have anything for you to hear online. (That is to say I have stuff on reels from before I went digital, but I haven't taken the time to remix - I will have to one day for preservations sake but I never seem to get around to it.) I play english style progressive (like old genesis, yes...etc) But the bands I was in never did make it to completion... So there are tons of pieces with either a missing vocalist, guitarist blah blah. And yes I am familiar with Performer and many of the mac stuff. Mac afterall is still the industry standard using motu and pro tools.... I never did get to mac because I was pretty sure apple was going belly up there for a while...... but I am soo sick to death of Gates bullshit that I may switch soon.... I've been on Cakewalk since the DOS version. I'm on Sonar 1.X Didn't see the need for version 2.... They are starting to lose me as well... if I wanted Sonic Foundry's ACID I would buy it. And Bikermouse.... I do live in an apartment... That's the second bedroom =0)

Can we trade landlords?

OS X - at least in theory- should be good for musicians. However the conversion of music apps has been a bit slow. My understanding is that some of the music support (at the system level) has been being introduced slowly through the upgrades. Thus the music app developers haven't been fully able to get their programs up to speed. Digital Performer for OS X has been announced but won't be available till later this year. I keep hearing good things about Sonic Foundry's ACID. Obviously I haven't had a chance to check it out.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/