All these folks have Poser5, where are all the renders? Marque

If you search on Poser 5 in the galleries, you'll see they are starting to show up. Some clearly aren't Poser 5 renderings, but others definitely are.

they're busy RTFM probably :)

still trying to find my way, can't get the hang of the texture map thingy...Sharen

you can search the gallery if you can get it to move, damn it's slow today :(

Here's my first, not my usual style. This took two minutes to render with the firefly renderer, no other options on. It took 11 minutes with all options on (cast shadows, raytrace, poly smoothing, using global lighting). I have an Athlon 1.2 Ghz with 1 Gig ram. The hair has 5000 strands, which I would definitely increase.

That's lookin' real good! ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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Here is a very quick one I did. I havent replied in any of the threads yet so I will say my installation and registration process went smoothly.

When I opened it back up the first time it froze my computer (first time with this new computer) but after restarting it opened back up fine. So far everything has ran fine for me, its just so much new stuff to learn I imagine thats why we arent seeing a whole lot of renders yet.

Most of this was playing in the face room with Don, I knew thats what I wanted to try first. I had a blast in there I did this one really quickly. The hair is just one of the default dynamic hairs with a few dial turns. And the only part of the manual I have read yet is how to install it and how to save my face/morph I did. I also read Rons post below on how to link to the old runtime folder and so far everything I have loaded from poser 4, including some lights, and mike 2 and textures for mike have loaded fine.

This has no postwork, just wanted to show a quick render. I have a 2ghz with 512mb of ram.

If it takes 11 minutes with 5,000 strands, and an actual human has 100,000 strands, does that mean it would take 220 minutes to do a realistic head shot? If so, it sounds like there's still a bright future for P4 hairstyles. I can't see spending 220 minutes on a simple head shot.

... thanks for sharing. I beleive that your observation about the lack of P5 renders is correct. The 'flood' will begin soon though! ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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There may be 100K hairs on the human head, but ... ... you can't ever see all of 'em at the same time, no? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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this looks great.....I'm guessing the texture is not from P5? is Don from P5? why doesn't he have eyelashes and the face room is where you morph his face? great lighting...btw

I think that mixing the two would work nicely. The strands just aren't that full looking, while the older hair is full but missing the wispiness of the new hair.

Crescent I think you are on to something there. Would make the old hair look great to have some whispy strands. I just got my new Hash today and it is great! Be playing with that until P5 shows up. Thanks for the renders. Marque

Yes Don is the p5 guy and the face room is where you can change his facial features. That is the default p5 guy texture, it is great. I think he does have short eyelashes but I didnt play much in the material room so I could have something set wrong in there. The lighting is one of my presets from poser 4.

I like the hair, but I do like some of the old styles just as well, I havent played in the hair room except for a few seconds yet either. I cant see myself even attempting 100,000 strands I personally would load up one of the defaults or do my own and then postwork it, but I like postwork. To me I can see how it would be really cool for say hair blowing in the wind, then taken into photoshop or psp for a little postwork on it but havent tried that yet.

Im having company and wont get to play this evening, happens everytime I get new software :) but I can experiment and get a little deeper into it tommorow.

ehrrmm, sorry geep (and redon) but what's so great there? redon said he used raytracing shadows with the firefly but the nose casts no shadows and the nostrils are still lit as they were in poser3. also, there are some transparency issues with the eyebrows, i guess there are upper eyebrows like vicky's, but they seem to have a visible ridge. this glowingmoth engine keeps disappointing me...

I don't believe the raytracing extends to the shadows. Only refraction and reflection. Raytraced shadows don't render glowing nostrils, only shadowmaps do.

Agreed on the nose - I was reading something yesterday by PhoenixRising that indicated that the glowing nostril problem seems to have something to do with the actual shape of the mesh around the nostrils. Hopefully there will be a fix coming out soon - I could have used my "nostril no-glow" props. The lack of shadow under the nose is probably due to the lighting set up. This is Posette, not Vicki or the new P5 woman. I just was running through the tutorial in the manual, which uses Posette. I wouldn't necessarily blame the problems in the render on the render engine - it's more likely operator lack of experience!

Judy (default) in one of the dynamic dress props included, sitting on a chair. This was to figure out how to make the dress collide with 2 objects while not making the chair also wear the dress (which is an easy goof). Had I known what I was doing it would have taken about 5 minutes fom start to render, but since I didn't it took half an hour. I'm pretty happy with the cloth room. Phoenix

The funny thing about Poser 5 for me is that it's a very familiar interface on top of a totally new program. You start to do something that you think you know how to do and then BAM, you run into a wall where you have to learn a brand new thing. This is not bad. It's good. But it requires some work. That's why there haven't been any renders yet. People are busy learning. Shhhhhhhhhhh. People in here are trying to study. --jjsemp

The lighting is obviously coming from the bottom, and there IS a shadow for the nose ... it is above the nose. As far as raytracing the shadows, you CAN do this, but the option must be turned on for each object, rather than a global parameter in the render settings ... unfortunately. -Tim

Vicky1, no changes to the mesh.. Raytraced in Lightwave; no glowing nostrils. Glowing nostrils are a side effect of shadowmapping. What PhoenixRising posted was a method to lessen the effect through different geometry that tricks the renderer, but even still noses just don't render correctly with shadowmaps. This actually also affects other small features of the face. FYI the same image when rendered in LW using shadowmaps instead of raytracing also suffers from glowing nostrils, and face shadowing problems.

Tim, I used two lights slightly above eyebrow level in the front. If you can post a similar image with raytraced shadows turned on the figure I would appreciate it. If Poser5 has raytraced shadows the nostrils will not glow. It would be impossible for them to do so. Am curious becuase I didn't not think they had included that feature.

I will when I have a chance, but someone will probably beat me to it in the meantime. -Tim

MallenLane - Here you go - Don with raytraced shadows (thanks for pointing that one out!) You turn them on in light properties, not in render options, btw.

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Wow, cool =)

I should say, my light preset was coming from the bottom. Its a preset called candlelight. And I didnt use the firefly rendering engine on my render I hadnt read up on it enough so I just went with the p4 render engine because I was used to it. I just did a quick render and posted it when I seen the thread.

Those look pretty good. I haven't purchased yet--waiting on seeing some sample renders. But I'm becoming more optimistic over time.

rendon, Thanks! That makes a big difference. This is default Don, default lights with one one casting shadows, ray traced and using the skin shader in the Alt Diffuse slot. hoenix

I can't even type my name anymore. P5 rots the brain.

Sorry, that's what I meant ... EACH LIGHT not object, must be selected as raytrace shadow. Sorry if I caused any confusion. Told ya' someone would beat me to a render! ;-) -Tim

Tammy, it's an execellent render...a wonderful texture and a great example of the hair for us to see...thanks a lot for answering my questions!

Registration was smooth. I like what I see so, far, but I'm going to read the manual and work with it for a week before I praise or condemn it.

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Is that pokethrough at the base of the jacket there? He is just standing upright isn't he?

Yes, it certainly looks like it. However, he just started and I'm sure has not used COLLISION DETECTION. -Tim

So all the clothes are set up with collision detection attributes?

Or a lot of the clothes, at any rate?

You can use it on ANY object in your scene! That's the beauty of it! It's fairly easy to use as well.

Okay, so the clothes are designed with that specifically in mind?

Haven't got that far yet. Lots of new stuff here :)

I think this is pretty good for P4 no glow. Right is global..left is just two infinates. Anton

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