I've tried everything till ... well I'm just at my wits end. I've imported, exported, re-written cr2's, edited obj files, used old cr2's, and made new ones. I had even at one time split the sleeves into 4 separate pieces each in hopes of a posable sleeve. But no matter what I do, when I try to conform it to a figure. YUCK, it just goes haywire. Joint parameters just seem to allude me. Even when I got close, the split sleeves had no parameters at all. Logicaly speaking all I have done should have worked. But sorry to say nothing has. So I plead with anyone who can help me make this dress work. The main figure is wearing the morphed Zygote Gown. I could just morph the dress and re-map, but I would really like (need) the sleeves posable. The white dress on the bottom is made with standard Poser pieces. (CatSuit sleeves, formal dress) This one may be the one to do, since then everyone can have it! Note: Before anyone tries to point out that this dress has no roots in history. You're correct. This is trully just a fantasy dress, made to look somewhat like a dress between the 12th and 16th century. My poetic license. I had also noticed that disuccusions have led me to believe that more of this kind of garb was needed. James