Jackson opened this issue on Sep 14, 2002 ยท 17 posts
Jackson posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 3:32 PM
Jackson posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 3:33 PM
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Drat! forgot the link.AgentSmith posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 3:46 PM
Not attacking you here, really, lol. But it is kinda bordering on advertising here...
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phoenixamon posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 3:47 PM
I didn't attack Vairesh. I suggested there might be a better course of action... a course which you took. Phoenix
PhilC posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 3:52 PM
On a practical note, can you get the IP address of the guy offering the file? Send this along with a screen shot to legal@curiouslabs.com
jwind posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 4:25 PM
Attacking Vairesh is a bit premature. A friend of mine downloaded the exact same Poser 5 crack shown in Vairesh's post, and let's just say it was -- humorous. I don't think Curous Labs has anything to worry about. In fact I wouldn't have put it past them to plant it there in the first place. :-)
Jackson posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 5:21 PM
Well, I don't know. I think just about any teenager with access to a computer could get this stuff. And, Phil, I don't know that, either. Guess you'd have to ask one of those teenagers :)
phoenixamon posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 6:26 PM
Y'all are just cracked (maybe that's not the best word) if you think warez is still the realm of the teen. It's gone mainstream. It's moms and pops. It's lawyers and bankers. It's anyone who went on K***a to look for a song they haven't heard since 1958 with "Window" in the title and their search results displayed WindowsXP. Addressing it like it's a bunch of brat kids misses the heart of the matter. Warez used to be hardcore and you had to be in the know to find it. Girls with tatoos used to be hardcore, too. Now cheerleaders have them. Times have changed. This has absolutely no bearing on the posts above, but folks keep talking about warez kiddies, and I think... know thine enemy. Phoenix
Wladamire posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 6:52 PM
im not defending the guy but there is no law that says he cannot have it on his system. yes its prob in his share folder however he is not saying download me. it is there to take at your risk. who knows what it is. even if u did get his IP you i belive would be infringing on user rights and uses of Kazaa or winmx or whatever p2p gnutella proggie u use. just live n let die and forget bout it. obviously its just one cd so they would only be able to use just a fraction of the proggie :P
phoenixamon posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 6:58 PM
1 CD is the entire program, silly bean. P.
Wladamire posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 7:27 PM
hehe im sticking with p4 too much buckos for my wallet then what is the 2nd content cd isnt that with the characters n stuff?
Jackson posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 9:01 PM
Phoenix, you're right to a point about the adults. But I find it hard to believe they are going at it like the teens. This stuff is like trading cards to the kids. Adults (I would hope) have better things to do with their time. But I could be wrong.
phoenixamon posted Sat, 14 September 2002 at 9:10 PM
Teens, I'm sure, are the most active at it, downloading stuff like trophies just to say they had it. But I don't think they are the real problem. They are the ones that aren't going to use it for anything professional, may not even use it at all but just have it for the sake of feeling complete, and would not have been able to afford it in the first place so it's no hard cash lost by the company. Not that I'm saying they shouldn't be taught better, just that it's less damaging. Adults, on the other hand, download stuff they are going to use, often for profit, and if they hadn't found it online they'd have paid for it. Although adults don't do mot of the trading, I think they account for the most revenue lost. Idle chit-chat from me, though. :) Phoenix
demosthenes_aborigin posted Sun, 15 September 2002 at 11:48 PM
the simple solution would be for pirated companies to plant warez bombs out there that'd frag harddrives and alert the FBI... It's what I would do to a snotty community of arrogant plagiarists - irrespective of any revenue they may or may not have cost me. If that happened only a few times, the word'd get out and these little e-theives would learn some manners. But then, I am a savage - prone to bait, entrap, render helpless, and mercilessly slaughter an enemy rather than complain.
phoenixamon posted Sun, 15 September 2002 at 11:51 PM
Course, demo, you'd be the one in jail. :) Phoenix
demosthenes_aborigin posted Mon, 16 September 2002 at 12:07 AM
why? is self-defense a crime on the internet?
phoenixamon posted Mon, 16 September 2002 at 12:20 AM
No, Spreading a virus is a crime. You know that. As I said in anothe post, I think in this same thread, the computer you're infecting and the person you're allerting the FBI to may be someone else who is working on piracy prevention. Or a student could do this at a school, and the school pays the price, not the student. Self-defense is tracking down the IP addresses of offenders and reporting them. What you suggest is merely striking out blindly. Bored now. On to another topic for me. Phoenix