Now that poser 5 is out, we're getting lots of renders of other people's interface layouts, and I can't help but notice that practically everyone has a different setup from the one I use. That is, it appears that the entire poser community has these ghastly toolbars cluttering up the UI; tools and doc settings. Now I realise that everyone has a different way of working, and also that people have just torn the wrapper from poser 5 with their bare teeth and jammed the CD into their machine, but I haven't yet seen a layout with them minimised and shoved out the way, like I do. Am I the only one on the planet who does this? LOL. I ask this for a reason. I'm currently working on a huge pack for sale, which will be thoroughly beta-tested before release, but in my own tests, all I ever do is move things around with the parameter dials. I know there are users who only use the tools to do this.....I just didn't think there were so many of them! Like....the whole world, it seems! Every time I try to use the tools, I feel my blood pressure slowly rising, until I'm finally forced to give up or take medication. The first thing I do on opening poser is press 'T' on the keyboard to get the 'Trans' (or Move) tool (intelligent name that). And that's only because I hate seeing that hideous default twisty thing all the time. I mean, I never use it to drag anything. Hmmm.... must add 'Tool-Using Beta-tester' to my list.... Oh well... 'Hurrah for differences' as they say in France. mac