Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: For those considering Poser 5

Entropic opened this issue on Sep 18, 2002 ยท 14 posts


Entropic posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 6:59 PM

When I began to use Poser it was with the intention of having an inexpensive method of moving figures into 3ds max without the time consuming effort of relying on Character Studio SDK. As I learned Poser 4, not well mind you, but I did learn some, I found that Poser became something more to me. You see, like most of you, I am haunted by images that defy my ability to show them. These moments stand out, blazing in my mind, and I find that my only method of maintaining sanity at times is to display them for the world to see. Rendering becomes a way of saying, "Look what I imagined." Without the ability to share those visions we stagnate as people, finding ourselves isolated within crowds, incapable of telling others how we feel or the solace of people knowing what we dream and what it could mean. Poser 5 is a tool that allows us to do that better. Whether you wish to consider faults, disappointments, or other "failings" sooner or later it will all come down to one thing. The story. Part of my story is a woman, awake in the middle of the night, moving with unkempt hair across her bedroom to look out at the moon. The shear curtains blow in and her hair moves, and at that moment there is magic. To look at her is to understand suddenly everything going through her mind, to envision her awareness, and to see the mystery and thought and comfort that the everpresent moon imprints on her consciousness. Moments like these are my reason for being an artist, and my reason for seeking out new tools, any tool, to illustrate and share my moment with others. Larry Weinberg crafted the rudimentary pigments that allowed us to scrawl on our cave walls. Since then the tools have improved, and today, where I once could crawl along to define my moment, I can now revel as I float within that moment, finding new and better ways to share that moment with others. I encourage those who are sitting on the fence to take a moment to read Larry Weinberg and Steve Cooper's introductions to the Poser 5 manual, and then consider this. The image below was made by an inexperienced Poser 4 user ( me ), with Poser 5 in 3 hours, after using the full software package for only three days. It is the first time I rendered with the new options, my first attempt to bring my moment to life. Perhaps it is not the best that can be done, but it is a vast improvement over all that I have done before. I and many others are writing tutorials, working hard to bring this moment to life for others, so if you choose to walk this way, you will not be alone in your choice. I have in the past seen many ask where the old masters have gone? My answer is that the masters are still here, in this forum, and that we are awakening with every moment. Regards, Paul Jenkins

tempest0308 posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 7:00 PM

I've been trying to figure out how to get a sheet or curtain to blow across a figure for a week now! ARRRRGHH! Shawn Great Image. At least I know it can be done.


Wynter posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 7:09 PM

I've been trying to figure out the cloth thing today and am bamfoozled! Even the tutorials I've found are not written for the total idiot (that would be me ;) with every little step written down. I'm assuming they are written to be in conjunction with the manual. Arrrgh..... runs screaming from the room....


Entropic posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 7:18 PM

Attached Link: http://www.attrition.org/~demonika/enmeshed/

Heh... worry not folks. As soon as Kiera's connection is back up tonite I'm sure she'll post my comprehensive wind and cloth overview. I also have a tutorial on setting up wind at the above link. It was my first attempt to write something, but will help you get it working and give you something to start with. My new tutorial is much more comprehensive though. Damn cable companies are delaying the posting of it, though. :( Paul

Wynter posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 8:08 PM

BTW, I also meant to say, Paul, that your image has a feeling a mystery and what you said was well articulated. I'm sorry, but I have to include the tutorial on that site as well. I told you I was an idiot. :) For instance, do you clothify (since its not mentioned) the object? What about the other settings about choreographing etc. What about the dynamic groups (am I remembering that right). However, I do compliment the tutorial in the abundance of images and the simple language used. I'm just having trouble wrapping my brain around this. Thanks...


jerr3d posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 8:09 PM

Well said Paul! And Excellent Image!


Entropic posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 8:20 PM

"For instance, do you clothify (since its not mentioned) the object? What about the other settings about choreographing etc. What about the dynamic groups (am I remembering that right). " Well, for future reference, if I don't mention it, it doesn't get touched. ;) That's the case here. Choreographing is another technique that I'm working with, but for that tutorial, it's unnecessary to use it. Your dynamic group is the cloth plane. I appreciate the feedback, it allows me to consider better how to relate what I want to get across. Don't pull punches because otherwise I won't know what you're after. Don't worry, I'm only offended by people in suits, so my feelings won't get hurt if you point out a mistake. ;) To any future readers, please please please provide feedback at the site. It will allow me to better clarify things for you and others, and enmeshed makes posting questions/comments pretty simple. :) jerr3d: Thanks! =D Paul


cinnamon posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 8:51 PM

dang, are you married??!! (joking) how romantical(olive oil )lol! cinnamon <-----


Entropic posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 8:52 PM

"dang, are you married??!! (joking) how romantical(olive oil )lol!" Nope, thanks, and olive oil toe, respectively. =D


cinnamon posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 8:53 PM

:-)


pokeydots posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 9:37 PM

Paul, That is a beautful image! I hope I will be able to acomplish something like this!! The perspective is really great,it adds to the whole mood of the image :)

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Wynter posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 10:14 PM

::Well, for future reference, if I don't mention it, it doesn't get touched. ;):: Alrighty then, that's good to know... No suits here, more of the birkenstock & tie dye type myself. Back at it tomorrow.


kittykatz100 posted Wed, 18 September 2002 at 11:39 PM

gee i think cl could sign you as a poser poster child... and i also have been trying to figure out that darn sheet thing...found a tut finally but dont have time to do it tonight. keep up the good work!


Spanki posted Thu, 19 September 2002 at 12:08 AM

"For instance, do you clothify (since its not mentioned) the object? ..." >> "Well, for future reference, if I don't mention it, it doesn't get touched. ;) ..." ...except for THIS case ;). Yes, you do need to clothify the object. Once you do that, you'll be able to click on the collisions button below that (it's greyed out until you clothify the object). Cheers, - Keith

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