When creating a picture in Bryce, is it not better to create the picture from scratch completely. Someone made the comment theat if the wheel is already created then why recreate it. Well i say if you don't create the wheel then how do u know how it was ever made or if you could ever make it yourself. Also, if there is a wheel that has been made, then build a better wheel. (plese note we are not just talking a bout wheels here, this applies to all objects you create. I agree that it is a good idea for newbies to use premade models, I did, but I only publish pictures in my portfolio that I have completely made myself. Afriend of mine pointed out to me that using preset models in a picture really only amounts to coloring a picture, creating the entire picture is truely the way to go. These are my feelings, what are yours???