I am not a big fan of the people in Poser. And I finally got around to looking at the evolution figure that everyone talks about to see what makes it so much better. After I looked at it. I'm shocked and wonder why you all like it? The model is cut up into sections that don't make any sense. The collars are awfull and don't pose at all and are merely place holders so the figure has the names Collars in it. The standard Poser figure poses better than this thing. As long as you don't raise the shoulder higher than the collars. Then use the collars to go the rest of the way. But this is how arms move anyway. I don't get it. The ev1 figure seems like a mess to me. As far as the section of the thigh that looks odd when the legs are spread goes. That's due to Zygote splicing the mesh a bit too low in the crotch area. So it tries to take the genital area for a ride when the legs are spread apart. But this can be made to look a little more natural by editing the JP's a very slight amount. What is it that you all like about the evolution figure? I don't get it. Someone please point out the magic to me. I must be missing something. ScottA