Hi Opalcat had some problems with this below here is somthing I'm working on but it should prove that the pose works. It's the full dragon with textures and the free poses. I'd appreiciate any input btw. Also I managed to run out of memory lastnight the machine said it had to enlarge it's virtual memory ok so it was my fault in that I'd tried 3 or for full texmaps but just thorght i'd mention it in case anyone else was having memory probs with my draconian friend! Dave