I am covering all tracks, I love fractils, I have XenoDream, love it, but want to do more. Where do you find the UF3, Atriatix, or SterlingWare? Also is there any program that produces the pictures like the ones Anal's "Optographic" series or Nscafe's "Messy Star". I did email, but have done so before with no luck or had a slight translation barrier. Thank goodness pictures are worth a thousand words and better than language. thanks Xeno66