Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: I guess I won't be buying Zygote's Victoria/"Millie" after all :(

fiontar opened this issue on Mar 26, 2000 ยท 3 posts


fiontar posted Sun, 26 March 2000 at 5:40 PM

This does suck. Victoria/Millie does have huge potential. Morphs will come, and there will eventually be huge advantages to be had using her as the base posette. As is, she is absolutely useless to me. To not include AT LEAST the same kinds of morphs for character individuation that come with the P4 Nude Female is just plain sick on the part of Zygote. I have a limited amount of money I can spend on this hobby each month. I can buy her now for $60, and have to put off purchases I plan from BBAY for another month. She is absolutely useless to me as is, so I'll have to put her aside for a couple months until morphmasters in the community can do FOR FREE what Zygote should have done to begin with. Or, I can wait a couple months for the morphs to develop, then pay $40 more to have a useful figure. Even if they had included the same kind of morphs as the P4 woman, she wouldn't be able to "replace" the P4 for most of my work until numerous additional morphs became available. However, at least a minimal amount of individuating morphs would have given her some usefulness to me. As I said, this just plain sucks. :-( I'm happy with the character creation I can do with the P4 and all of the excellent morph targets available for her. I guess as I think about it, the decision isn't as hard as I thought, I won't be buying her. She is useless to me as is, and I'm not going to pay $100 for her once Traveler and others release enough morphs to make her useful. Oh well, this is the first product that I would have considered buying from them, I have not been impressed with their price to quality ratio on past products. Lack of "standard" morphs just reminded me why I haven't purchased from them in the past. GGrrrr..... I know the talent in the community exists to create a high poly model just as good as this one. I wish a few of you, rather than waste time on morphing Victoria, would spend the time collaborating on an better alternative. I would rather pay $75 on BBay for such a model, built and supported by the community, than give my money to Zygote for a very "incomplete" product. I don't usually get this ticked, but the more I think about this, the more disgusted I am... Fiontar


pack posted Sun, 26 March 2000 at 6:01 PM

Agreed some MT's would be appropriate. If you've looked at Viewpoint's prices tho, you'd see $60 is way cheap for a nice quality human model. We have high expectation given what everyone is giving away. This Poser community is incredible. So much hard work & generosity with freebies. It's hard to compete against that. I support Zygotes efforts. Man, if they go out of biz, Poser will become almost an orphaned program, save for the users.


true.northstar posted Sun, 26 March 2000 at 9:00 PM

I think zygote is milking it for all they're worth. Who needs a model with nothing in the way of morphs? And clothes will cost extra? Please. Do I have a sign that says sucker on my head? Anyway, if it were me creating these models, I'd want to make them the best I could, and many people here do that for free. Yeah, $60 bucks would be cheap if it were a custom model, but look at how many of these zygote is selling, and I promise they could have created nice morphs for that price. I have nothing against the creators of the model, she looks great, but from the company standpoint, Z. is being uncool. I also like the idea of some of the better modelers here creating a better model, even to sell. I'd happily pay more for something that I knew was done with solid intentions, and the talent here is every bit as good as what zygote has. And I don't agree that Poser will ever be orphaned, as long as there are people who care as much about it as the people here. Oh, and when I develop my skill (which may be never the way it's going) I plan to create a character that has two versions, with and without hair (the with having hair morphs for movement) and all kinds of cool morphs. Wish me luck :)