Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Victoria/Milli yearns for her date

jschoen opened this issue on Mar 26, 2000 ยท 11 posts


jschoen posted Sun, 26 March 2000 at 9:02 PM

Well, she could be waiting for for the Mil Man, or maybe just a good looking Poser dork. Or maybe it's because she's naked ;-) Anyway, this was just an inspiration for the new model. James

shadownet posted Sun, 26 March 2000 at 9:18 PM

Hey James, Great image. Millie certainly makes possible for some nice facial expressions. Unfortunately I am just too superfical I guess, cause I can not seem to get pass her big hands, ill proportioned body, and (to me) unattractive face. Love the lighting and background most. What did you render this in? Rob


picnic posted Sun, 26 March 2000 at 11:17 PM

Oh, that's really nice-I like the facial expression and the touch with the moonlight coming through the lace curtains is wonderful. Diane B


jschoen posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 12:15 AM

IT was rendered in Bryce. No Post work (Ok I lie, I did a tiny smear on the hair, but that's it honest). Yes i agree that she's not as pretty , but this is the most realistic render that I've done. I'll replace here with P4nudeFemale and see. BTW: The lace curtian will be up on the FS as soon as I can. It has a (not so great) pull back morph. And of course I will include the texture map/Transparency map.


shadownet posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 12:24 AM

Thanks James, I didn't know the curtains were going to be posted. That's great as they look really nice. Yes, I would like to see this image with the P4nudeFemale just for comparison. If you have Paul Hafeli's Lisa or Fran texture, I am sure you can get near photo quality out of the P4 figure. I used the Lisa tex as you may recall for my Rise-n-shine and Morning Glory images and think I had very good results. Paul used his Fran tex for the Sheet image that he posted and that was certainly surb. Rob


fiontar posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 12:25 AM

Very beautiful image. I'm not happy with Millie, but you have created a very nice image with her. :-) Fiontar


quesswho posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 9:20 AM

In Vue when I imported her texture I wound up with half her ear and a line on her jaw that had no texture. But she looks really good. Marge


melanie posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 10:34 AM

James, I love the lighting you used. Lighting can really be the key to a successful image. I'm still really challenged in that area. I can never get the lighting right, no matter how much I tweak it. Shadownet, I wonder if Victoria really has oversized hands, or does the original P4 woman have hands that are too petite? It's hard to say, and in real life, people have all different sizes of hands, feet, noses, ears, etc. That's what makes us all so interesting. I don't really know anyone who has a perfectly proportioned body (mine sure isn't!) The diversity of body shapes makes people more fascinating and individual. Maybe we shouldn't be comparing her to P4 woman; she is sort of Barbie Dollish in a way, and even she isn't perfect. Anyway, who IS perfect? I'm still debating on whether to buy this character or not. I'm finding some interesting feedback here about her. Sort of looks evenly divided on opinions. It appears to be a love-hate thing. On the one hand, I don't want to spend the $60 (I can't really afford it right now), on the other hand, if I don't now, I might regret it later. I'm in a pickle! At any rate, James, you did a wonderful job with that image. The mood and ambience are just right. You get an A on this one. Melanie


shadownet posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 12:03 PM

Here I go again - don't know what happen to the first reply. Melanie, I am sure you are gorgeous. Nor will I argue the points you made as I would lose. What makes us individual, interesting, or even beautiful is a biased thing. My beef with Millie/Victoria is that at this point you are kind of stuck with her as is. With the Poser4 nude female I could resize the hands, face, hips, etc., and create different looks, ranging from Barbie Doll to grotesque. Until someone makes morphs you are stuck with the stock "looks". And I personally do not find that "look" attractive. Zygote left that for someone else to fix. The other thing that bugs me is Victoria is not really an improved version of the P4nudeFemale as initially tooted and I anticipated. It was not that long ago that we at his forum were bing polled concerning what features we would like to see added to the Victoria figure not avaliable in the P4nudeFemale. What does that lead one to think? How many improvements (suggestions made) were adopted? In the end, Victoria turns out to be a new figure (not an improved P4 figure) that has some nice facial expression and joint improvements, but also is flawed in other areas - areas that perhaps the P4nudefemale was more pro. Because she is a new figure and not an (improved) P4 figure, she is not compatable with existing Poser4 clothing, hair, etc. So, this means additional expense, and/or somebody (other than Zygote) spending a lot of time and effort bringing her up to an expectable usable standard for Poser 4. Now folks are buying her (and rewarding Zygote) and yet turning around and complaining about Victoria not being what they wanted/expected. (?) I don't get it. Show me the advantages of why I want/need Millie/Victoria and I will buy her - but not because of fad or hype. Maybe I will be proved wrong in the long run, but I don't see Millie with much of a future after the new wears off. Rob


jschoen posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 12:21 PM

Now who was it who complained about going off thread? Hmmm. This is just a render, I am not selling or pushing the new model in any way. I am just pushing my somewhat talent here. For a comparison of Milli/Victoria vs the P4NF look at my new post. James PS: My ISP is still migrating, so I have to find a home for the lace curtian. Any takers?


shadownet posted Mon, 27 March 2000 at 12:27 PM

My apologies for getting off topic. Your talent speaks for itself in everything I have seen you do. Rob