Anyway, here is a side-by-side comparison of the EXACT render, one with Victoria, one with the standard Poser 4 Nude Female. NO retouching or ANY outside work was done to either of these renders. They were both done with the same Bryce file, where the only adjustment was the scaling of the figure, (P4NF is smaller and does not bend her back as well) So I had to pull the camera back a bit for her. P4NF has a complete body texture map as Victoria only has a face texture. Note: the lighting may look a bit different but that is Bryce's fault. The lighting changes slightly as the camera is moved. Don't know why this happened. Also P4NF looks a bit lighter because of the body texture. Draw your own conclusions. James