Forum: Bryce


Subject: WIP: Pollution... for criticism

BlueArdor opened this issue on Oct 17, 2002 ยท 12 posts


BlueArdor posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 1:37 AM

Well this one is turning out gloomier than expected. lol My next one is gonna have flowers..lots and lots of pretty flowers and colors. Thanks for any input, Blue

Zhann posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 2:05 AM

Whooa, dark imagery, I love it...

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ICMgraphics posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 4:06 AM

Can't make anything out, bit too dark. great concept


shadowdragonlord posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 5:12 AM

Aye, it needs to be equalized... And lose the black clouds in the middle, they add nothing and de-focus the image. Try working from lighter to darker, instead of darker to lighter.


cambert posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 5:55 AM

Yep, basically too dark to see at the moment.


BlueArdor posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 6:38 AM

Thanks everyone. I might have to file this one under no hope. The ground terrain is a texture that I thought sorta looked like a factoryscape. I tried more lighting and it looks even worse. I do have a couple questions sparked by shadowdragon's help... 1. Is working from lighter to darker a general rule of thumb? or is that just something that you see best for this picture? 2. What does equalize mean?


bikermouse posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 10:32 AM

A little too dark. Like the wings.


lsstrout posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 12:39 PM

Blue, I can't answer your questions because I don't know enough myself, but I think you can salvage the picture. IMHO, leave the landscape the way it is, and put a bit more light on the figure, since that seems to be the focus anyway. If it is the pollution that is affecting him/her, we need to be able to see it. By the way, I am seeing this on an mac, so all I see of the landscape are points of light, and the figure is mostly gray-black wings and human that's really hard to make out. Lin


itsrainin posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 1:19 PM

dont know why everyone is saying its dark, i can see the image fine, looks great to me, the middle cloud needs to less drastic and the figure good be more transparent, to me the ground looks great, i think this is a pretty good image if u ask me


madmax_br5 posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 5:11 PM

Whatkind of mac are you running? On my 17" apple display this image looks fine. I can easily see the landscape and the small details on the figure. There is mist coming out of the smoke stacks that turns into dark wavey smoke trails that then dissolve into the figure. The black clouds look to be a buffer that hide the sharp waist of the creature. Makbe just a bit less dense. And yes, just a bit more light on the figure...maybe pale green?


shadowdragonlord posted Thu, 17 October 2002 at 6:59 PM

Mack, scmack. It's not that the image can't be seen, in my opinion. More, SirBlueArdor, that a bigger contrast between the lights and darks would help propel this picture into pricelessness! As a general rule of thumb, Sir, I don't use rules of thumb! But in this case, perhaps try changing the Ambience settings on all of your materials to the same value. Once this value is established, the image will be more "equalized", although what I meant by that was more along the lines of post-production. Like Photoshop or something equally preposterous. (To hell with 2D!) After that, maybe try playing with the Shadow controls in the Sky Palette, turning them from white shadows to dark, and adjusting the value to bring out more contrast... Just some ideas/answers?!


lsstrout posted Fri, 18 October 2002 at 9:14 AM

I have an imac at work and a pc at home. I'm at home right now, and the picture is less dark on the pc. The landscape is more detailed and I can see the human figure better. I think Shadowdragonlord is on the right track. An alteration in lighting would add a lot of drama. Try out his suggestions, and if that doesn't help, I've seen several lighting tutorials in this forum, so you might check those out also. If that doesn't work, try to find some art books that discuss how light is used in various pictures, it might give you some ideas. Even if you end up setting this aside for awhile, don't give up on it. It's a good picture. Lin