I have gotten the eyes to show, thanks for that tip. My next problem is the lashes. I uses a dual material transparency... I used lashes map from zygote and a inverse of it as a trasparency (reason is to get gray lashes instead of pure white, inversed it in adobe). I want more natural color, but whenever I boost color I get a bleed of color into the trasparency. Is there a way to get natural color where the grey lashes are at and keep transparecy? Here is a side by side of the lashes with one material (pure white) and the dual material (grey). Again thanks to all that post great images and answers to winded questions... Jason