I thought I'd test my amazing new computer that I took delivery off yesterday - this isn't a pretty scene - I was just loading it up with raytraced shadows, reflections and hair etc. This is rendered in Firefly with everything on at production quality at 640 by 480 and took 3 minutes to render - pretty fast you might think but then I am now running a P4 2.8GHZ with 1Gig or PC2700 DDR Ram (I couldn't stretch to rambus) so it should be fast, and this was still a little slow for my liking :-)