Forum: Vue


Subject: Deep in the woods... comments ?

agiel opened this issue on Oct 30, 2002 ยท 17 posts


agiel posted Wed, 30 October 2002 at 6:17 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=270117&Start=1&Artist=agiel

I made this image for the october challenge but I didn't finish it in time. It started off as a Vue render (38 hours of rendering on a 2Ghz P4 !) but since I missed the deadline, I decided to work on it with photoshop and see what comes out. I still believe it has its place in the Vue gallery though. Comments anyone ?

gebe posted Wed, 30 October 2002 at 6:23 AM

The strong red light on the girl shocks my eyes a little. The contrast is too strong with the green. But that's only my 2 cents. I love the green part and the vegetations of the image. :-)Guitta


YL posted Wed, 30 October 2002 at 6:55 AM

Seems to be too dark for my monitor settings. But as we all have different settings, who knows, it's maybe my monitor . I like the idea of Chaperon rouge, and like to imagine her as I can't see her ;=) Yves


agiel posted Wed, 30 October 2002 at 7:30 AM

Guitta.. I had to reduce the red a lot from the first version. It used to be a lot brigther :) Maybe it is like YL said - different monitors settings. Thanks for the comments, I will try to keep that in mind for future images and try them with different settings.


Cheers posted Wed, 30 October 2002 at 7:58 AM

I think the Wolf could be highlighted a bit more as it is one of the main subjects...it does get lost amongst the shadows and vegetation. Maybe it was intentional though, so as to keep the identy of the Doberman Pinscher a secret ;o) The coat colour, does seem to be a bit too intense with my 1.8 gamma calobrated monitor, which does seem to keep my eye focused on Little Red Riding Hood, and keep it from investigating the rest of the image. This is maybe why I found the Wolf a bit too subdued. For all that agiel, it is a very atmospheric picture...excellent :o) Cheers

 

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ArgentiumThri-ile posted Wed, 30 October 2002 at 5:43 PM

I agree that there is a problem with the red light that attract too much the point of view on Petit Chaperon... You could obtain more mystery if there was leaves shadow between light and girl... Maybe you should also add a discreet dark green light with a little of volumetric fog behind the wolf. Argentium Thri'ile


YL posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 1:48 AM

I should go to Lite-on website in order to calibrate my monitor if possible, thanks for the post; Agiel; in fact it was a question I wanted to ask ;=) Yves


gebe posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 3:26 AM

agiel,you asked for comments. But you are the only one who has to "feel" your image and you have not to listen to what we say. It's YOUR image:-). BTW, as I'm working professionnally on graphics too, mostly with Quadri Pantone colors on vector graphics, my monitor is calibrated optimal. :-)Guitta


YL posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 4:32 AM

Hey Agiel forget my first comment. Now I can see the girl and the dog (not a wolf it seems). But I have a real and big problem. How to calibrate a monitor ? there is nothing on liteon website. I have now a gamma of 1.8 and a high contrast, as it seems to be a good thing ; but what is the reference ? Now my pictures seems all bad to me :=( Please could someone help ? Yves


gebe posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 4:45 AM

Yves, to do a "classical" calibration, some graphic cards have a possibility to calibrate your monitor. Windows also gives you the possibility to calibrate (in french: click-droit sur l'ran-->propri--->paramres--->avanc-->carte. Cela doit re OPTIMAL pour la carte graphique).

You can use as well the buttons on your monitor to calibrate the classical way (CMYK).

You also can go to http://pages.prodigy.net/ecmorris/tips/monitor.htm and compare your colors (CMYK). You may need to do a personal gamma, contrast and brightness correction.

It is not easy to give special rules, all depending of the fabrik of your monitor, the surrounding light and and and...

Hope this helps.

:-)Guitta


YL posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 6:20 AM

Lot of web links exists to perform such calibrations (Jasc, Photoshop,...). I give one which I used to calibrate my monitor. Explanations are clear and there is some theory for the dummies (like me) : http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/ It seems that only my 5 or 6 last images are too bright (my aquarium is :=( , it will be done an other time) since I changed my monitors settings one week ago; it was not a good idea. I hope than now the others will see my pics with approximately the same aspect than me. Thanks again Agiel ;=) Yves


agiel posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 6:21 AM

Thanks for the comments. Guitta, the strong contrast between the red and green is intentionnal, but I did not calibrate my screen so that can be a problem. There were some good comment though. I will see if I can improve the image that way. I don't ask for comments very often, but each time I did, the comments I received were worth the jump :) To calibrate a monitor, I think I remember something from the Adobe website (or maybe was that pantone ?). If you have Photoshop, there is a calibration utility in the application itself.


agiel posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 6:24 AM

Attached Link: http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/

Try this site. There is a lot of references coming up when you search Google on 'monitor calibration'.

gebe posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 6:25 AM

Yes all big paint programs have a calibration feature for print, screen, scanner...etc. (I use Corel).


YL posted Thu, 31 October 2002 at 4:13 PM

Now I consider that my monitor is calibrated, but I don't know if it's true :=) Who knows ? I wonder what the others see when they see my pictures . The link you mentioned are very useful ; eparpress particularly ;=) Yves


gebe posted Fri, 01 November 2002 at 2:42 AM

Yves, what you can do is very simple: If you have a scanner, scan a simple image containing colors (a photo) a 800x600 resolution or highter. Show it on your screen and compare the colors to the original. Look and compare once in normal day light and once in (evening) electric light. You will have an idea if you need to correct or not your calibration. I have 2 computers and 2 monitors. One is a better quality then the other. This also has some importance, as both are calibrated correctly but doesn't show exactly the same gamma. :-)Guitta


YL posted Fri, 01 November 2002 at 8:31 AM

Thanks for the idea, I will try it. But I am rather satisfied now since I am sure to have a gamma of 1.8 (measured with tests on http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/ or www.jasc.com, they give the same result). I was not really aware of that problem, as it is said on the web for "monitor calibration", I was working with sunglasses. Now my monitor appears bright to me, but I'm able to distinguish more details in all the pictures I watch ;=) Yves