Err, Mr. tutone? Can we chat for a moment? Dude, you and JeffH need to sit back for a few and not continue this line of debate. You're only digging a deeper hole here, and neither of you are doing Renderosity any good by arguing with your customers in this manner. I'm not so sure that contacting Clint will help, tutone, at least not if all that happens is that the mail takes a one-way trip to /dev/null. No accusation agaisnt Clint at all here, but if Tim isn't willing to listen, then what good will contacting Clint do? By now you've probably heard a zillion ideas for how to make things right again. Also, it doesn't do much good to keep pounding the point in that Tim's decision was ill-concieved... I think he knows that by now, or at least should know it by now. Perhaps I should let you know where I come from: I am not an admin at PoserPros, and I am only a nominal moderator at Faeriewylde, which doesn't even have a store... in there, folks are peaceful and kind, so as a moderator, I don't get that much of a workout in there; I rather like it that way. I do live in very close proximity to DAZ, but I do not at this time represent them in any official or unofficial capacity, nor am I on their payroll. Therefore, it can be safely assumed that I have no evil personal agenda, yes? So why did I pull my store, freebies, and galleries? I've already posted my reasons, and will not repeat them ad nauseum. However, before I do waht the vast majority of the membership around here does - simply lurk and download - I wanted to ask you guys to take some time out and re-think this unholy mess. There is still time to put it right. /P