eelie opened this issue on Nov 25, 2002 ยท 24 posts
eelie posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 5:44 PM
Roch222 posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 6:11 PM
I think its perfect the way it is - but thats my opinion! the only thing i would do is maybe vary the heights more of each ball thingy I have a question for you ... how did you make such nice ripples and splashes please do tell roch222
ICMgraphics posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 6:35 PM
Looks good as is. I agree with roch222 about height variations.
eelie posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 6:47 PM
Attached Link: http://www.petersharpe.com/Tutorials.htm
Thanks for the feedback. I thought about the change in heights also but I was going for a large field of these things. I was hoping that moving them off into the distance would give the height variant but it didn't as much as I'd have liked. As far as the splashed, I followed the Peter Sharpe tutorial and used a variation for the splashes. The ripples are just symmetrical lattices, duplicated and enlarged to make them flow outward. I applied a standard glass material to them at first, but they didn't pick up the ocean look as well as I liked, so I finally used the same material as I did the ocean. That came out much better. Thanks again...I appreciate your opinions! :o) Susanbikermouse posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 9:38 PM
One of those let's get stoned and think about it picts. not that I get stoned you understand, but I'm gonna think about it . . . For some reason Bill Cosby and Noah come to mind . . . I wonder why ?
Claymor posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 9:57 PM
I think I might try putting a few random critters in a couple of the spheres...fish in one, maybe seahorses in another, coral, etc. It might change your original artistic intent too much ...but why not replenish EVERYTHING in ocean and not just the water? :) -Claymor
FWTempest posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 11:21 PM
lol... bikermouse uuhh... what's a cubit?
bikermouse posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 1:54 AM
About a foot and a half (the lenght from an average sized man's elbow to the tip of his . . . umm lets see . . . I used to know that )
Kylara posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 4:41 AM
I like the idea of this one... What you could do perhaps is to add some white water around the splashes. Maybe some volumetric clouds can do the trick so it doesn't look "too clean"? Also.. the ripples look a bit "square" where they intersect with the waterplane. A way you could fix this is to raise them slightly off the waterplane.. but then I'm sure you can look under the ripple, right? What I always do is raising the ripples slightly from the middle to the sides then you can make it appear more fluid
tjohn posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 6:05 AM
Great idea, you can almost hear the splashing. Oops, sorry I got to go, I take a diuretic for my blood pressure. :^) Like some of the others have already said, vary the level of objects. And maybe add a little more color to the sky?
This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
"I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather....not screaming in terror like the passengers on his bus." - Jack Handy
eelie posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 8:18 AM
You know, I'd thought about things in the spheres themselves but hadn't thought of that being part of the replenishing. I like that! :o) I'm also going to give a shot at making some whitewater around the splashes. I agree that that might give it a bit less static appearance. For the height thing, I think I'm going to try altering the view just a little so that one of the spheres is right in the front where only a part of it is in view. I'm hoping that'll give a better frame of reference of size and distance. Lordy, you all are great! :o) Susan
bikermouse posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 1:52 PM
eelie, As Kylara says and the haze color should it be closer to either the cloud or water color - perhaps more of it, but don't haze or fog the scene too much - a certain amount of sharpness inhances this type of picture. Things inside - fishes? unicorns, mice, humanez or other air breathers might drown. Unique perspective, you should continue on this line of thought even after the contest, - TJ
mboncher posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 3:08 PM
I'd probably try a different sky. One of my favorite stock skys is "Fall Wedding". If you are going to add a model, I'd try either dolphins, whales, marlins or salmon leaping from the water. Or for more tranquil, try very large goldfish. I like this image a lot and may want to use it for a desktop sometime. :c)
Zhann posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 6:46 PM
bikermouse, what are you going to think about, the image or getting stoned?...;p
Bryce Forum Coordinator....
Vision is the Art of seeing things invisible...
Enforcer posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 7:30 PM
You might place another of these Leaky Sphere groups behind the camera so that its reflection can be seen in the foremost sphere. That should help to solidify the idea of a large field of these things. Very nice image BTW.
bikermouse posted Tue, 26 November 2002 at 7:46 PM
Like I say I don't get stoned, but I do have a beer once and a while . . . It's a good image - I'm thinking on it.
big_hoovie posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 12:02 PM
cubit- I believe that's the distance between fingertips, with arms outstretched
bikermouse posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 12:08 PM
Hey I know Let's go ask Geep! bet he'd know what a cubit is.
Aldaron posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 12:14 PM
big_hoovie that would be about a fathom (~ 6 feet) a cubit according to the dictionary is "A cubit is a unit of linear measure, from the elbow to the tip of the longest finger of a man."
bikermouse posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 12:23 PM
Aldaron, I'm sute you're right on both counts . . . but I asked geep anyway about the cubit. If he doesn't think I'm just being lame his answer should be forthcoming. Don't be suprised if the answer is in Poser units though. That does bring up the question of the size of Bryce units . . . but I think that question has been answered before, somewhere. - TJ
Aldaron posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 2:24 PM
Well there is no real world "size" for a Bryce unit. It's whatever you wish it to be, from a millimeter to an AU or lightyear. Whatever works for your scene :) Saying that, most Poser figures come in a 40.96 units tall (Y direction) for human shapes.
big_hoovie posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 4:19 PM
well, I guess I stand corrected =c)
bikermouse posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 4:21 PM
Aldsron, Assuming a Poser figure to be 6' tall(as is the stock P4NM figure Dork), you could then scale a scene relative to 40.96 Bryce units being equal to 6 feet. As you say it's arbitrary, but you could do it. Inrerestingly enough, geep says that a cubit is from 17 to 21 inches. (I think that that is correct, but I can't think of where I would know that from.) Thanks for the info, - TJ
bikermouse posted Wed, 27 November 2002 at 4:28 PM
Aldaron sorry about the misspelling of your handle - I type hunt and peck a lot of times.