I've recently run across a really odd phenomenon... I tried to parent two spotlights to the flame on a torch. Every time I do this, the spotlights somehow end up messing up the joints. The endpoint gets really weird. The bend translator works in reverse. Things get very strange. This was really confusing me for a while because I thought it had something to do with my Gravity Well. But I removed that (and loaded it up anew) and the same problem persists. So I tried using a 'clean' figure -- the one created in New Figures -- and was going to save it and start from scratch -- when to my surprise the prroblems I'd been having tranasferred to that as soon as I added the spotlights to it. Is this a known issue?

Well, anyway I came up with a workaround. I have a cube set in the centre of the flame and parented by it and this cube is parenting the two spotlights. It seems to work pretty well now.

Stay off that bad acid man!

Seriously, this spotlight problem sounds really weird, but the torch is looking great. Glad you seem to have solved your problems. I must check out this strange phenomenon.

I tried parenting spotlights to Posette's shoulder and hand, everything worked as expected. From what little I know of Poser I would not have expected a child to affect its parent in any way, unless there was a weld involved. Is this happening immediately you parent the lights, or only after a save to the pallet?

It was immediately. Like I said, it was really really weird. I don't know if it may have been related to the fact that I had 2 parented by it. But the in-between prop fixed the problem anyway. B^)