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I didn't know whether to upload this or not, due to current tragic events. But I actually created this piece over a year ago and it is a commentary on President Bush's reluctance to sign the Kyoto agreement so I hope it won't upset too many people, unless you're a devote follower of the Presidents policies, and believe its important to put profit/economic security before environmental/global warming/climate change issues. As we have seen in the last week the economic as well as human and enviromental cost is huge. I'm not saying Bush signing the Kyoto treaty would have prevented Katrina, in many ways its already too late, climate change is here. But two word, "Damage limitation". What this picture is saying is that a storm is coming that will affect the American way of life, the economy will eventually suffer more than the Kyoto agreement could ever cause. I fear this week events, and others like it, will become more and more common, the rest of the planet is already suffering, for instance the glaciers in Nepal melting in to mountain lakes, that are set to burst with the potential to kill tens of thousands, again thats even before the economic costs are weighed up. I am completely aware though, I am oversimplifying a complex set of issues, but then again I'm not the politician and I don't get political very often. If I really wanted to, I could say "Money is the root of all evil", which is also represented in the picture, the full res version shows the patented "oil burning flag holding up machines" are supplied by Halliburton. I shall now get down from my soap box and wait for the flames.

Comments (26)


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DavidEMartin

7:56AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

Bush is a self-obsessed moron. A good example of the dangers of social inbreeding and why political revolutions occassionally occur. There. Just wanted to let you know you're not alone. As for the image, your choice of symbology is a little hard to fathom. I'm still trying to figure out what those things on the beach are. (Oh, and have you noticed Bushy Boy has taken to dying his hair?)

servo

8:02AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

No flame, just facts. If I had room here, I could post dozens of scientific articles that utterly refute this. I'll just put one short clip here in hopes that not everyone out there is mindlessly believing what rock stars and TV news anchors tell them. Climatology is bigger than just saying we see this melting and we had a big storm, so the world is warming, and humans did it: --- "There is of course no consensus at all," (among climatologists) according to Dr. Fred Singer, President of The Science & Environmental Policy Project and Distinguished Research Professor at George Mason University and Professor Emeritus of environmental science at the University of Virginia. "There isn't even a consensus on whether the atmosphere is currently warming -- never mind on whether humanity should be held responsible." --- Most people don't realize that there are in fact two parts to the IPCC report - a large science section (the 'main report') which is a description of research activities in climate science, as well as a highly politicized "Summary for Policymakers". The summary is what is commonly quoted in the media and by those supporting Kyoto. They present it as the consensus of thousands of the world's foremost climate scientists. In fact, it is no such thing. It only represents a consensus of government representatives (many of whom are also their nations' Kyoto representatives), NGO's and business, rather than of scientists. The Summary for Policymakers has a strong tendency to disguise uncertainty and presents frightening scenarios for which there is no evidence. --- Here's one last quote showing what activist environmentalists know about global weather patterns: "If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000.This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age." --Kenneth E. F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day 1970.

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zorares

8:06AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

Why should the US join Kyoto when the Kyoto allows the Chinese not to follow the same requirements? China has become the largest creator of pollution in the world but yet everyone blames the US? What BS!

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kansas

8:17AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

I am pleased to read 'servo's' comment and agree.

bluliner35

8:24AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

servo has been pro bush no matter what the issue. Ask servo to defend the statements made by the president's mother and former first lady barbara bush regarding refugees from New Orleans. She said: "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them." by this, she meant being removed from their homes and sent to shelters in texas. Let servo defend that sort of pig ignorance. Ask him how it's any different from another queen who said "let them eat cake". as for your artwork, regardless of what servo says, i believe it's the obligation of powerful nations to lead the way and set the example for the world in matters of environmental responsibility as well as many other issues. I'm deeply disappointed in my president's lack of consideration and general poor behavior regarding the kyoto agreement. perhaps he believes those who suffer the consequences are "underprivileged anyway" and so it won't be so bad for them.

wizardtim

8:49AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

More "Chicken Little" propoganda, "The Sky is falling". Kyoto was nothing more than an attempt to stiffle the US economy. When it is examined, you see the "pollution credit" system is weighted heavily against the US, and does nothing to address so called greenhouse gas emissions. And the 2 largest polluters, China and India, who spew most of the world's pollution, are exempt. So, in light of REALITY, why would we sign it? That would be stupid. The Bush-bashing is so old now. Is that all the people who disagree with him have? Just hate? Come on, you must get beyond this. As for this piece, it doesn't seem to stand on it's own. It needs an explanation, which is not what great art is about.

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inkev1961

9:09AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

Excellent! I really don't think any of us who have done any BushArt are bashing Bush. Just that we don't have our heads in the sand and can take a REAL look at everything thats going on! Bush has cut (Ended) so many programs and funding (Such as the money needed to repair those Levies in New Orleans) and soon Bush's Bankruptcy laws go into effect and those Poor people already effected by Katrina will have More bad things to happen to them! Bush's Mom has recently snickered and chuckled commenting that " These are "Under Priviledged people and actually all now thats happening will be a good thing for them and a "Step Up". If you are making over $ 300,000 a year then probably you will support Mr Bush. Yea,Yea Yea, Bush's are christian and so is Ozzy Ozbourne!

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nurunuru

9:46AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

An appropriately big head. Excellent.

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gmartini42

10:06AM | Wed, 07 September 2005

Let's face it, if you hate Bush, you hate him and no arguments from anyone will change that - facts or no facts. Bush is by no means perfect, ala illegal immigration, over spending etc etc. If you anti-Bush people are so darned smart, explain to me the global warming taking place on Mars. Look it up! No SUV's or U.S. presence on Mars last I checked, other that a few pieces of various probes. Could it be, oh I don't know, cycles of the Sun? As to the art, I actually kind of like it, but the things on the beach should be clarified with more detail somehow. What are they? Wind generators? Rework the piece and post again please.

Mendes

1:44PM | Wed, 07 September 2005

Thanks again to EVERYBODY for their comments and opinions. I stated in IM's to everybody earlier I'd had a meesage from a gallery moderator warning me about copyright issues, which I assume was mainly the manipulated photo of Bush. Though I did this picture over a year ago I remember the search I did to get this photo, it turns out its an official potrait from the US State Department website whose copyright statement includes "Unless a copyright is indicated, information on the Department of State Web Site is in the public domain and may be copied and distributed without permission." The portrait had no copyright symbol on it and is therefore fair game. The picture stays, though by far not one of my best.

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xcentricity

2:11PM | Wed, 07 September 2005

I love art that makes a statement, this piece is no exception! There are so many things that the US has neglected when dealing with the planet we live on and those who are forced to live under those policies. We are the new hegimon and the crusades have begun!

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danamongden

3:26PM | Wed, 07 September 2005

Three things to say: 1) The piece itself is actually fairly good on artistic merits. The oncoming storm looks particularly good, and I like most of the wavy flags, though a couple look too broken up by the waviness. I only wish there had been a bit more detail on the little metal things. I can't tell what they are, really, nor can I read the writing on them. 2) IMO, you're totally off base scientifically and politically. Cat-5 hurricanes happen. On a long enough time scale, it was certain that one was going to hit New Orleans. This has nothing to do with the oft-debated global warming or whatever political/religious rant anyone wants to toss onto this tragedy. Also, whether or not Bush himself stayed with Kyoto is irrelevant. When Clinton signed it, the Senate took a non-binding trial vote on it, and defeated it 98-0, so Clinton never even submitted it to the Senate. In other words, not a single Democratic Senator was willing to support it. Not one. Hence, the bipartisan consensus was that Kyoto was a BAD idea. All Bush did was point that out and official withdraw from something the U.S. was never going to do. 3) The problem (as I've learned myself) is that political art is rarely accepted as art, just as politics. I hope you weren't suprised by this. (But I'm ranking you on the art, not the politics.)

dragon1

10:58PM | Wed, 07 September 2005

Sure category 5 hurricanes happen, but a warmer climate makes them happen more often. Just look at all the category 4 and 5 hurricanes we've been seeing the past two years. Can ANYONE remember the last time we've had that many hurricanes of that magnitude in such a short period of time? Global warming is real, and at least part of it is because of human greenhouse emissions. Kyoto Treaty or not there is still no excuse for not tryint to reduce these emissions. And lastly for wizardtim and servo, is there ANYTHING that Bush could do that would make you stop constantly fawning over him and kissing his rear end?

Borscht

12:06AM | Thu, 08 September 2005

For human beings, America or others, to be this omnipotent towards our planet is beyond an able description. The Kyoto Treaty, though heavily biased against the U.S. (re: the United States is the worlds number one consumer of oil) it is still a good idea. To continue to think or say that human consumption has had no effect on this planet is utterly and without question the most ludicris statement ever made by man. Conservative quotes from the past (see servo's 1970 quote) were wrong...but we've had 35 years of climatolgy study since then, and lord knows better techniques and equpiment. What people also fail to realize is this: since 1970, we've pumped trillions of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere. Sure, Plante Earth is big, but how much can it hold of our wastes? To not sign the Kyoto Treaty because it would hurt our exonomy is the second most despicable thing ever said by man. Think of that: we refuse to clean up our planet because Wall Street would take a hit. What??? This administration, as well as others in the past, have put your environment and this planet second to how well the Dow Jones looks. Retarded. I am a firm believer that global warming exists. Melting glaciers across the globe (and don't anyone try to tell me that because one glacier on the planet, inside Mt. St. Helens, is increasing in size means that this global warming thing is a farce), shrinking polar caps, melting tundra throughout Siberia and Alaska, severe changes in animal migration patterns and the unusual weather patterns seen across the globe. Maybe they were wrong back in 1970, but take a look outside to heatwaves in Europe, droughts in the Midwest, flowers blooming 4 weeks early, typhoons and hurricanes at ferocious levels, smog, Dutch Elm disease and countless other warning signs. I'm all for my retirement accounts to take a hit if for one minute I thought that a Kyoto Treaty would give my nieces a future filled not with devastation and turmoil, but one with beautiful seasons of winter, spring, summer and autumn...and clean water, no pollution and a "who-cares" about what the rich men want.

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Vile

12:06AM | Thu, 08 September 2005

Great image and I will leave my politics behind as we all see we reap what we sow.

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catmandennis

12:12AM | Thu, 08 September 2005

It's amazing how the Bushies come out of the woodwork to defend their indefenseable President. No one in this administration is ever held responsible for anything bad that happens in this country. It is a shame how this President has led us down the road to dispair with the unnecessary and costly war in Iraq, the soaring deficits and the rising cost of gasoline and therefore everything else pretty soon. I thank the powers that be that I will never have to vote against this President again. Presidents are fair game as long as politics are around. Keep it up! Conversations over controversy are healthy.

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eyeland

2:11AM | Thu, 08 September 2005

George Bush apparently believes that global warming is a myth, evolution is a wild theory, our air will become cleaner by reducing pollution standards, our forests will become healthier by cutting down more trees, lowering taxes will solve any economic problem, and initiating wars under false pretenses will create peace & deter terrorism. I find it truly sad & pathetic that Americans voted for this mediocre man twice & that anyone continues to support or defend him...

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SergeantJack

3:52PM | Thu, 08 September 2005

Setting aside the obvious moonbat nature of your post, it's actually quite well done. One question though: why just Bush? You seem to be forgetting that Kyoto was rejected by the US Senate in a narrow 95-0 vote. So why are there not 95 senators appearing directly behind him? Typical leftist propaganda. Next you'll be blaming Bush for the British burning Washington DC.

demodragon

5:37PM | Thu, 08 September 2005

What about the Cat 5 tornado in Oklahoma was that Bush's fault to. Wake Up and smell the cofee. We DO NOT control the weather, mother nature does.

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Digimon

10:39PM | Thu, 08 September 2005

First of all, bravo! A wonderful piece of art! Epic, sweeping! Awesome! Now for the politics, Who in their right mind could think that we have an effect on the environment and the weather? Carbon monoxide, cyanide, fluorocarbons, CO2, radiation...the poisons we emit have NO impact on our environment! The Earth can take what ever abuse we decide to crap on her! What kinda liberal commie pinko rhetoric is being proposed here? Why it makes me sick! Makes me want to check and see what L.A.'s smog factor currently is, light up a cigar and laugh!! Oh wait, that's right...(I keed) Any of these bozo's that spew their "We're not polluting" tripe, who do you think you're fooling? Maybe yourself, but not me. Great piece!

agentmike

8:52PM | Fri, 09 September 2005

Here we go again with all the slamming. Got better things to do with my life.

studmuffler

1:23AM | Sat, 10 September 2005

Why does the U.S. need the kyoto accord when Bush can just turn around and tell us up here in Canada that we should use 1/3 less energy (which he did by the way)So that we can ship it to the U.S. If you people are so economically stable, why do you need our power and natural gas.... Build your own power plants so there will be no more rolling blackouts.....And drill your own gas wells....Use your own oil for your petroleum needs....but you know what??? You cant afford to...You know why??? Because your great Warmongering President has taken all your availible Finances and jammed them overseas...So in the mean time lets use the rest of the world and take their resources So you dont have to cut back on using yours.....God Bless America!!!!! Great Render by the way

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Naichan

10:52AM | Sun, 11 September 2005

I admire your courage, putting this up! But I'm glad you did. Political art can be great in itself, like the classic 1930`s anti-Nazi collages of John Heartfield. The coming storm depictied in yours is quite chilling. As for global warming, I've recently seen an alarming report from Greenland where the vast ice cap is melting at a record rate. There's little doubt that climate change is real and it's happening now. I fear more Katrina's and worse to come... Take care all.

ATruePatriot

1:21PM | Mon, 31 October 2005

Some interesting facts: THE BUSH REPORT A recent NRC report, which the Bush administration requested last year when scientists criticized the White House for its slow response to growing evidence of global warming, concluded that "human-induced warming" will continue through the 21st century. While it conceded great uncertainties in the many models of climate trends that experts have produced, the report predicted that the planet's climate would warm by 2.5 to 10.4 degrees Fahrenheit by the century's end due to human activity. Signs of the striking pace of that trend came in reports from many scientists who monitor the ice of the globe's far north. The Arctic's sea ice -- large masses of snow-covered ice that float everywhere around the polar latitudes -- usually covers 2.4 million square miles of the ocean north of Canada, Greenland and Russia in September, the height of the ice season. This past summer, however, measurements showed that the sea ice had decreased by nearly a half-million square miles. The flat ice floes left wider sections of open water between them and became extremely thin in many areas, reported Ted Scambos of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo. It marked the most abrupt change in the ocean's ice cover that scientists monitoring the region have seen in 24 years, said Mark Serreze of the data center. Records kept by Icelandic fishermen indicate the cover may not have been so low for centuries. "I was really surprised by the change," Serreze said. "This was the craziest summer season I've ever seen up there." MELTING FASTER THAN EVER Equally ominous was a report by Konrad Steffen, a glaciologist at the University of Colorado, on Greenland's vast ice cover, second only in size to Antarctica. It was melting faster this year across nearly 265,000 square miles than at any period in recorded history, Steffen said. The ice sheet is a mile and a half thick in some places. As meltwater from the surface seeps through crevices in the ice, it loosens the edges of the sheet and causes the ice to flow more swiftly to the sea, where it breaks off into icebergs. If the entire Greenland ice sheet were to completely melt -- admittedly an unlikely event, at least in the near future -- then scientists calculate that sea levels would rise by a globally disastrous 23 feet. Steffen had a firsthand experience of the dangers of melting ice. He and his colleagues were camped on the normally hard-frozen Greenland ice last June when their camp and equipment were flooded under a foot of meltwater and they had to be rescued by helicopter. The high Arctic is by no means the only part of the world where climate change is becoming more dramatic. Scientists are equally concerned about the impact of changes on tropical oceans. Great piece!!

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Turin_Returns

4:55AM | Tue, 01 November 2005

Personally I am saddened that people consider the Kyoto Protocols to be only political. I live in Australia and we are directly affected by global warming and ozone depletion. I know it is difficult to sympathise with the suffering of others if it affects your way of life but we HAVE to start somewhere. I am an environmentalist but I do not only see the corruption of the US. However they ARE on our television all the time talking of 'liberty, freedom, democracy' and other misunderstood words -- so naturally they appear the largest target. No one likes the policies of others shovelled in their faces but we do live on only one planet. It amazes me still that the many are fooled almost all of the time....

cliveish

7:40AM | Thu, 10 November 2005

This says all that needs to be said about the the great polluter and its leader.


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