...your opinion is requested... by Litehouse901

Poser • Work In Progress • posted on Nov 28, 2005

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...okay, this is a test...someone recommended that I try something in a render...which I did -- I did it "their" way which is the top render and the second one I did "my" way. Now -- in BOTH renders -- the character, hair, LIGHTING, morphs, MATS, CAMERA settings, render settings and backgrounds are IDENTICAL. Only ONE thing has been changed in the two renders and it is the exact same thing. I would like to know what you feel is different and which you feel looks better. I'm looking for honest opinions only. Just keep in mind the lighting is the SAME. I'm looking forward to what opinions you all have about this. After a few responses, yes, I will post a note as to what the difference is in the renders. Thank you for looking and thank you for your opinions. Poser 6.0 only and PS 7.0 only used for signature. Have fun!

Comments (27)

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originalkitten

6:09PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

I like the first ones skin better....her skin in the 2nd looks a lil patchy......but i like the 2nd ones eyes better lol both are awesome tho

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LiquidRust

6:32PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

I like the first render better actually. :D Did you change the skin ambience? lol...oh bah! I know nothing about poser..:p

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zescanner

6:43PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

I am guessing that the ambience setting is different? I like the first one better. The skin looks too "pasty" to me in the 2nd one. The deeper tones in the 1st one giver her more depth. Wait... maybe it is the reflection map that is different. The highlights in the eyes are different.

confuseddave

6:55PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

Okay, I'm stepping out of this one. Considering I don't do Poser. I will say that I like number one better. But to define what you did differently -- can't do that as I don't use Poser. But this is excellent -- I can't wait to see what you say is different. Thanks for the challenge!

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Turtle

6:56PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

The eyelashes are better in the second one, so is the eye color. but the rest I like no 1. :O)

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Marty_Mcfly84

7:02PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

although i see that the eye color and reflections are different in the two renders and i also see the difference in the shadow under the chin and the ear and the lips are 2 different shades and the eyelashes appear to be slightly different,soooo i guess you got me i can't guess the 1 change you did to create a different look.....

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alan42

7:04PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

well, more than one thing must have been changed because she has brown eyes in the first and blue in the second... the eyelashes are also thincker in the first.... I like the skin tones in the first - definitely warmer. The second is a pale skin look and definitely doesn't have the same "glow" to the chin, cheeks and forehead that the first does. I prefer #1, but it depends what look you are after I guess

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Litehouse901

7:06PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

Oh, my, Alan42 -- you are right -- I didn't notice the eye color! I'm sorry about that! But it is not the eye color that is causing the major difference in the render.

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fastburn

7:11PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

Even though the skin on the first one looks more natural, the eyes on the second draws alot of attention away from the pale shade of the skin. To me the eyes are the most important part. No matter how real the character looks, they always have those dead 3d lifelees eyes. So when the eyes look as realistic as possible so does the character! That's why i like the second one better! Now as for the difference between the two, i would guess you added a little color to the channel your tex's are in! All in all a fantastic job!!

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jherrith

7:19PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

Well, since I didn't get it right when you sent this to me last night, I am certain I am going to continue going in the wrong direction. Since I have really only started to use the "advanced" settings since I got this new system I originally though you had set some IBL lights and adjusted the AO settings on it or had used the Sub-Surface setting in the Material room. But now I am wondering, based on the last couple of comments, which make sense to me, if you didn't plug a texture or color into the the lights themselves One or more hard to guess on that part.

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Elfenone

7:46PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

Looks like you used different make ups in the two. The top one looks like there's a shader on her. Second one looks paler and less vibrant.

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MOOOW

7:51PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

Wonderful portrait like both really beautiful portraits with excellent lighting!!

joe123

8:43PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

No 2! - the eyes, lips and skin tone is different. I like No 2 better.

Tamela.J.

9:42PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

I know, I know, I know!!! LOL Outstanding!! I wont say anything more as to give any tips hehee

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Parthius

9:55PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

The skin tone /shading looks much better in the first. The light area under the chin in the second doesn't look right. The eyes have been changed, color and "reflections." I have to go with the top one. Excellent work!

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anitalee

11:15PM | Mon, 28 November 2005

I prefer the top one, but their are nice aspects in the second as well.

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violet

5:37AM | Tue, 29 November 2005

I'll go for the second one...I'm a sucker for beautiful eyes....beautiful character by the way..

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Litehouse901

5:49AM | Tue, 29 November 2005

Yes, Jean-Luc -- as I have mentioned to others - don't overthink the problem. It's a very "simple" thing that I did with Poser 6.0...I'll post the "answer" tonight. I'm really enjoying everyone's comments...thank you

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Lully

12:21PM | Tue, 29 November 2005

you kept saying "SIMPLE".... the only place I have seen that on poser is in the material room, have you used IBL WACROS, dunno what they are but it's something to do with the light and as the light plays a big part in colour and she's shiney in the second one, could it be that??? waiting in anticipation of the answer as its driving me mad!!!! good fun though lol

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1:48PM | Tue, 29 November 2005

I like the eyes from no 1 and the skincolor from no 2.Beautiful lighting and facial expression! Excellent!!!

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Litehouse901

5:46PM | Tue, 29 November 2005

Okay, the answer is.....I used the Material Room to apply the MATS and makeup in the top render. In the second render I applied them in the Pose Room. Hence, the difference. As I said, a person who is well versed in the Poser realm asked me to try this as they felt there would be a differnce. Sure enough, there was....so, that folks, is the mystery. MATS and makeup applied in the Material Room vs. the Pose Room. Thank you all for your comments. This was a lot of fun and very interesting for me. =o)

bramhambabe

6:25PM | Tue, 29 November 2005

oh thats so cool. i would never have guessed it could make such a difference and its a very striking difference. well done :)

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Yotna

8:36AM | Wed, 30 November 2005

Wow! That is surprising, another 'undocumented feature' still - very useful to know... I have started playing with DS more. As I think the interface is better than posers. Does seem to favour Daz figure though - LOL.

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Jean-Luc_Ajrarn

9:56AM | Wed, 30 November 2005

Weird... material room and pose room are applying the materials differently? i had no idea. Thanks for the comparison and idea. :)

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B_PEACOCK

9:00AM | Sat, 03 December 2005

Sorry late on this .But what it seems to me is the color when aplied .Meaning in the pose file when made ,the texture strenth and even color could be slightly altered and that would make the change. That can be done when making a pose file :) Nice work on them

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