I was going to call this one. "Go head, say it." but I didn't think anyone would get it so I changed the title to what it is now. okay I know the background sucks big time, I could not for the life of me think of how I wanted to place him so I threw something in the back and blending the hell out of it. I mean I smudged it, blurred it, filtered it until it was not even a background anymore.... I'm not realllly happy with this but he did turn out decent, so that's the only reason I'm showing it. I think I forgot to add more shadows somewhere and no I didn't add his beard, goatie, or what ever it is, I didn't want to have to draw it on so I left it off I was being lazy with it and I don't care to much for how his eye's turned out. ..::Stock::.. guy http://www.deviantart.com/view/23575448/ NOTE: The clothing was done following a tut, which for someone like me who can't really do clothing that well seemed to grasp it just fine. I still have a long way to go, but the Tutorial is excellent, it's a must get!! thanks for popping the window! Enjoy