Had to reach the surface sooner or later! The Dutchman is the P4 galleon from Content Paradise. it and the ocean surface and some fog were all brought together in VUE 5 and rendered. That result was then brought back into Poser 6, where the Aurore, Victoria 3 and Micheal 3 were added along with more fog. I tried to render this with the Poser 4 render engine. First time I ever saw it crash. Tried Firefly- "There was a problem during rendering"... VUE 5 was next- it refused deleivery.Back to Poser and I finally had to break it into two files , reduced the texure sample to 512- as small as it would go- and the bucket size to 44 before I could get it to render. Everything except Vicky and Mike were rendered and used as an imported background for them and the foreground fog. Aurore is from Renderosity's Marketplace- in fact it's on sale as of this posting.Victoria 3's outfit is the Seven Seas outfit with the LF Corsaire hat- all from Renderosity. Micheal 3's outfit is the RT Pirate mega pak from Renderosity. The fog is from VUE and one of RDNA's weather paks.