Are you guys gettin' tired of my birds? This "might" be the last one... I guess you can only hope... ;) Created entirely within Ultra Fractal... even the cascade of leaves on the right were created using Iterated Function Systems (mt.ucl)... going at it the long and hard way... :) There are 50+ layers to this one. I've been reading the thread on the UF list which addresses the question, "Is it a matter of not knowing when to stop?" I haven't contributed to the sage and diversified trains of thought on that one... but I know that this particular image would not have been possible by using only a couple of layers. I'm all for the "less is more" mindset when it comes to creating controlled chaos... meaning that if we can come up with a pleasing, well-defined fractal using one, two or three layers... it should not, then, be intentionally complicated (or "grunged") by adding a bunch of chaotic layers for the sole purpose of defining fractal art the way we may perceive it to be defined by others. Does that make any sense? Probably not... ;) Anyway... thanks so much for all of your kind and encouraging responses on these bird images to which I've been subjecting you ... I surely appreciate your time and your words. And thanks for having a look at this one... Hugs! Helen :)