Meredith_0272 by MeredithWilson
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OK - some of your art has been ripped off!! NOW WHAT???????
As the copyright owner, YOU must file a complaint of infringement. No one else can do that.
So - WHERE do you file the complaint - and how do you find the crooks' e-mail addresses????
To track them down, try this procedure:
I'm going to use "www.artfile.ru" as an example:
STEP 1
Go to:
http://www.whois.net/
In the left box of the WHOIS Lookup, type in "artfile" then use the drop down selector to find ".ru"
The selections ARE NOT in alphabetic order - you've got to hunt for the correct one - ".ru" is about a quarter of the way down.
Then click the "Go!" command button.
You'll get back:
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WHOIS information for: artfile.ru:
[whois.ripn.net]
% By submitting a query to RIPN's Whois Service
% you agree to abide by the following terms of use:
% http://www.ripn.net/about/servpol.html#3.2 (in Russian)
% http://www.ripn.net/about/en/servpol.html#3.2 (in English).
domain: ARTFILE.RU
type: CORPORATE
nserver: ns1.agava.net.ru.
nserver: ns2.agava.net.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED
person: Palichev Yriy Viktorovich
phone: +38 050 9814481
fax-no: +38 050 9814481
e-mail: admin@artfile.ru
registrar: R01-REG-RIPN
created: 2004.06.08
paid-till: 2007.06.08
source: TC-RIPN
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STEP 2
This has some useful information - but the e-mail, phone/fax, person could be bogus or out of date.
But YOU MUST try this first!! Send the "Notification of Copyright Infringement" as detailed in my Meredith_0269 Copyright Infringement Enforcement post:
Meredith_0269 Copyright Infringement Enforcement
Read all of it, but the format you need to send is located in the first comment under "COMPLAINT CONTENTS!!!!"
You should also read the information in:
Meredith_0269 Copyright Infringement
Get your complaint information e-mail together and send it to "admin@artfile.ru" and address it to "Palichev Yriy Viktorovich" as the registrant of record.
STEP 3
If the e-mail goes through, wait a couple of days and see if you receive any correspondence back or if the offending stuff is removed. Remember that you are dealing with different times zones so give them at least two days to respond.
If you get correspondence, see what they say and what else you need to do to get rid of the stuff - and if the stuff is gone, you are home free!!!
STEP 4
OK - if the e-mail doesn't work, save a copy of the original e-mail and the return notification! It is important that you do this "by the book!!"
Now look at the nserver lines from the WhoIs information: "ns1.agava.net.ru."
"ns1" is the name of a particular server(s). We don't care!! What we want is the rest - "agava.net.ru"
This information CANNOT be bogus because this is what is used to route the traffic to their site. If this is wrong, the site won't work!!
STEP 5
Do a search using one of the search engines - Yahoo, Google, MSN - I used Yahoo and put in "agava.net.ru" in the search box.
The first one that Yahoo returned is the one I wanted - "www.agava.net.ru"
STEP 6
So I click on the site link!!
http://www.agava.net.ru
Bad news - it's in Russian!!
STEP 7
To beat the language problem, go to AltaVista's Babel Fish Translation site here:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
In the lower box where it say "Translate a web page" type (or paste) in "www.agava.net.ru" so that you end up with "http://www.agava.net.ru"
Directly below that, click the drop down box and select Russian to English
Then click the "Translate" button.
STEP 8
Hooray - now the site is in English!!!!!!
Look on the right hand side and locate "the Contacts" - sixth item down and click it!!!
STEP 9
You should then have a list of "good" contacts and in English courtesy of Babel Fish.
E-mail a short note saying you have tried contacting "www.artfile.ru" directly but got no response or a dead e-mail account, etc. Add the "Notice of Copyright Infringement" and the returned e-mail info, and then send it to their abuse e-mail address as detailed on the line:
"abuse@agava.com" -complaint on to spam or other incorrect actions, achieved by our clients - e-mail address.
I would also send it to their webmaster at:
"webmaster@agava.com" - general questions.
Wait a couple of days and see what happens. You may hear from them - you may hear from "www.artfile.ru" - or the offending stuff may be gone!!
If it's gone, you are also home free!!!
STEP 10
If you don't get any action or if the e-mails don't go through, refer back to the WhoIs information to get the line:
% http://www.ripn.net/about/en/servpol.html#3.2 (in English).
Go to the "www.ripn.net/about/en/servpol.html#3.2" web page.
http://www.ripn.net/about/en/servpol.html#3.2
RIPN is the Russian Institute for Public Networks. These are the folks that assign the internet domains in Russia.
There is a lot of information on this page, but not what we are looking for.
STEP 11
Click the "About" tab at the top and then at the bottom of the "About" page you will find:
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123182, Russia, Moscow, Kurchatov square, 1 (ROSNIIROS)
Director: Dr. Alexei P. Platonov
Phone: +7 499 196-7278
Fax: +7 499 196-4984
E-mail: info@ripn.net
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If nothing has happened, send all the communications to "info@ripn.net" and directed to "Dr. Alexei P. Platonov, Director" and ask for help!!!!
Again wait and see if anything happens and if the stuff is removed.
STEP 12
If not, then go to:
The Russian Federal Service For Intellectual Property, Patents And Trademarks (Rospatent) located at:
http://www.fips.ru/ruptoen/index.htm
Which of course is in Russian!!!!
STEP 13
So go back to AltaVista's Babel Fish Translation site
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
In the lower box where it say "Translate a web page" type (or paste) in "www.fips.ru/ruptoen/index.htm" so that you end up with "http://www.fips.ru/ruptoen/index.htm"
Directly below that, click the drop down box and select Russian to English
Then click the "Translate" button
STEP 14
At the bottom of the page, click the "contacts" tab and e-mail these folks with all the documentation and ask for help!!!
STEP 15
And if you still don't get any results, IM me and we'll think of something else!!!!!!!!!
I have done a lot of these type things. As soon as I found a valid e-mail account, I always got results!!!
Don't hesitate to IM me with any questions!!!
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Bobby (B_Peacock) and Dawn (Lully) have been researching the Russian web site, (and other places) looking for more stolen art from Renderosity.
Take a look at Bobby's (B_Peacock) information at:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1399525&member
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1400286&member
And take a look at the link to her web site on Dawn's (Lully) post:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1396943&member
She is also preparing more info - as is Bobby and as am I!!!
Please contact them and give them a hand digging through the site(s)!!!!!!!
Hopefully this stuff and everyone's efforts will help put a stop to the problems!!!
I've got a LOT of links in here. As soon as I post this, I'll be checking them all to make sure they work. If you get a bad one, come back in just a few minutes and I'll have it fixed!!!!
Love ya!!!
Meredith
PS - I meant to post this last night - instead I've been hiding under the bed!! We had a real Texas size thunderstorm roll in!! Spring weather is starting to get wicked!!
PPS - By the way, the Babel Fish site is VERY handy for translating MOST web pages! It has a lot of different language combinations!
PPPS - The image of the money used in the thumbnails was downloaded from the Bureau of Engraving, U.S. Treasury Department and used in full accordance with their rules of use.
Comments (47)
TheAnimaGemini
Thanks hon for your usefull infos. But this fu.....russian site is full whith spyware. I had found on my PC yesterday, after visited the site 107!!!!!! This sucks. I could But okay. I will see what to do next. Hugs and take care. Love ya.
tallpindo
I hope you are safe from criminals in this activity. There is much to be accomplished under the nuclear umbrella. I have had experience with whois in past years where it eventually refused to trace anything outside of the US. It is nice you have rebuilt the relationship that allowed tracing down sources.
jif3d
WOOHOO Meredith "you da man !"...oops,"you da WO-man !" brill work and information, as I have been strapped for time this week, this helps me enormously, the other links I will check out a bit latter, but a BIG THANX from me and the other Rendo artist for all your diligence and efforts so far ! Love Ya !!! and ~Cheers~ :o)
Syrup
You are greatly admired for your extensive reasearch and efforts! :B eaver !
B_PEACOCK
:) Thanks for the info and help MErideth. Love ya lady :)
eekdog
i visited this place or one of his many sites that Marlene listed, thing was it was all in russian or some lang, and so many pages to view i decided not to keep on looking, not like anyone would wanna rip off my crap anyway, always appreciate the info my friend, lol
Gor111
Meredith may I thank you so much for the time you invest for us! It's very interesting to read what kind of information you always post! Thanks again!!!
lwperkins
Thanks for the whois link--that is so handy for tracking spam, too!
BAR-CODE
Mmmm did you forget that the FIFTY DOLLAR images you use Have COPYRIGHTS on them.... .... .. Why cant we keep this to one thread on the comm.forum ..starting it over and over again has no use at all ..
Surama
So much time for us.....I wished I would understand everything you write.....!
brycek
Great info Meredith..thanks a bunch!!
RodolfoCiminelli
Fantastic investigation and information too Meredith...!!! Thank you....:!!!
carlx
Thanks for the many useful information! I see on this webpage many images from Renderosity, and some pictures from my gallery, too!!! :(
Primal
Thank you Meredeth!
Silkylady
Thank you for the info. I've been lucky, so far. Not ripped off yet. Thank you for the past comments. Very welcomed. Huggs...Silkylady...
RubyT
Thanks for the info, Meredith!
mcv
Meredith, thank you for the detailed and step by step information on how to research and deal with copyright issues. Excellent work!!! I have used just about the same steps with dealing with unwanted emails, but could never have writen then up this nicely! FYI if a US web site or company comes up in your investigation, you can learn a lot by using the Security and Exchnage Comission's website, and their search tool, Edgar. Link: http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml For any firm large enough to issue public traded stock, the link "Search for Company Filings" will get you large amount of information like corporate officer's names, addresses, phone munbers, etc. Also a good way to find that a given company has not filed any information with the SEC. (Begin Off Topic) Which may mean caution is in order before given them information or sending them money, credit card numbers, etc. Not that many small firms or large but 10% private firms are not 100% legit, just that you know who & what you are dealing with and can follow up more via Better Business, etc. if warrented. (End Off Topic) Chances are most other countries have their equivalent to the SEC, but I do not know the web address by coountry nor which also have a public access online lookup tool for all files documents. Thanks for this infomative and useful information Meredith!!!
commander_bombast
Geez, how do you find ANYTHING on that Russian site?
Valerie-Ducom
I'm sad with this style of probleme grrrrrrrrrrrr !!!! Thank you my lady dear for your useful infromation and I hope these members delete my pictures... hugsssssssss
sirgugu
Send them a link of this page to see if they like our viewing about the subject? Ask Borat to make a funny (invented) interview about this? I like the second if someone finds their email we can make a story about this. Only 5 minutes and they're kaput.
awadissk
Thank you for your efforts this is excellent information, cheers!!!!!!!
vis151
Thats right! I use "whois" all the time.
chrispoole
Hi Meredith, just had a quick glance of the things your trying to achieve here at Rendosity and I hope it takes off big style, I'm in a different predicament to most artists here as I have already been contacted by the biggest names in film and modern art and believe me I was the last person I could think of to be contacted, but I still feel at a loss with what comes next and how to project myself, I feel I'm starting at the top and working my way down.
jocko500
cool work. You must have Shelock Homes blood in you. thanks
jwiest
Great tips/instructions. Might want to fix the typos in your image though. :) hugs J
Faery_Light
This goes into my special "Meredith" folder on my mail server. :)
DennisReed
You are indeed a Goddess! :) A lot of important information, and direction! Thanks, and Bravo!
Monuli
Very useful information Meredith. Thank you !! ..Uli
Parthius
This is definitely a much better approach than some I've been seeing such as hiding the image under copyright notices! Excellent information!!!
RM426
Not only are you one smart cookie, you are a very dedicated one, Meredith. This had to take you a while to research and write up. Thank you so much for sharing such valuable information with all the artists here. You are always such a giving person and definitely give a lot more back to this community than you receive. This is a must read for every artist. Very excellent work as always!!! Everyone give the lady a round of applause!