Hi everyone, I'm sorry that it took so long to get back over here. I worked so hard on getting this particular submission out, that I needed some time away just to catch up on my increasingly demanding activities out in the "so-called" real world. A mad scientist's work is never done... I'm posting this submission as a link to the Tubaholic Flamepack, which is an Apophysis resource that was co-authored by no less than 16 talented fractalists including three awesome artists who regularly post their work here at Rendo: BP Clarke, Chromotron, Amota99517 This particular image was created using Apo 3D flame parameters that Bunny Clarke sent me and that I modified to suit the Apo 2.07 beta release. You will find other examples of this collaboration posted in both her gallery as well as my site at dA In the meantime, I really can't say enough about the generosity of my friends here at Rendo, as well as those at dA, who donated flame parameters to make this a truly magnificent and inspired set of fractal flames to play with. I highly recommend it to Apo enthusiasts. In addition to some really beautiful looking flames, you'll find interesting and unusual gradients as well as many examples of what one can do, not only with tubes, but also with rec and curl, spider forms, JuliaN Rings and other tube-like transformations. Please use it to inspire your own tubular creations, but remember to credit the source when you do! Also please stop by some of the contributors' galleries to show your appreciation for their talent and generosity. They really deserve it! Namaste Sasha