After seeing some stuff getting produced and beating my head agains my desk (repeatedly) when I couldn't get anything anywhere close I swore up and down that as soon as I made some discoveries I'd share them. So, here we go. :D Step by Step instructions for this image (woot!) 1. Start Fresh. Clear the flame with the spiffy "new" button in the editor. 2. Create 3 new xforms. Move 1 up and left 1 unit, 2 up and right one unit, 3 down and left 1 unit, and 4 down and right one unit. Leave them all linear. 3. Set the symmetry for xforms 1-4 to 1. 4. Add another xform. Change Linear to 0, and change Eliptic/Elipse (can't remember the exact name and too lazy to go look) to 1. 5. Make the post transform for 5 active and start shrinking! You'll start noticing lots of cool stuff happening. (This is where the lightbulbs started lighting up for me.) 6. Rotate xform 5's post transform by 90 degrees- this turns it over on its side. 7. Fiddle with its post transform triangle coordinates a bit- I ended up with X(0,0.5) and Y(-0.3,0) to kinda make the transform look like a checkerboard. It was more elongated horizontally than square to start out with- God Bless whoever thought up post transforms. 8. Add another xform. Set the linear variation to 0, epispiral variation (plugin found on deviantart by cyberxaos)to 1 and the pre-blur variation to 1. Set the epispiral variables to n=2, thickness=0.5, holes=0. 9. Shrink transform 6's post xform. Then scoot it up by 1 unit. I ended up with the post xform at X(0.262144,1) Y(0,1.26214), O(0,1). 10. Add another xform (xform 7). Set linear to 0, bubble to .75, and pre-blur to 20 (another lightbulb moment- if you set pre-blur high enough it gets rid of all the details while keeping the original shape). 11. Scale the post xform for 7 down and scoot it over to the left by 1. I ended up with X(-0.488,0), Y(-1,0.512), O(-1,0) 12. Fiddle with colors until you're happy for xforms 5, 6 and 7. 13. Select xform 6's post xform. Set the weight at 0.15 Set the pivot point setting to World pivot mode. Duplicate the transform and rotate by 90 degrees. Duplicate the new xform (xform 8) and rotate by 90 degrees. Duplicate the new xform (9) and rotate by 90 degrees. Then do it one more time- duplicate 10 and rotate by 90 degrees. You should now have 11 xforms. 14. Select xform 7's post transform. Do the same thing- set the weight to 0.15 and duplicate/rotate until you have 13 xforms total. 15. Add a final xform. Set linear to 0 and foci to 1. You'll notice the parts of the image don't exactly line up all the way. So- this is the tricky part. Start fiddling with the final xform's scale until the image gets crystal clear. I ended up with the following post xform coordinates: X(1.048,0) Y(0,1.048). All done! Parameters: http://5thdimensionstudios.com/exampleparams.txt