Inspired by an image I found a long time ago on one of the many art sites on the net... can't exactly remember where. 1.5 hours painting in photoshop CS3. On the topic of Photoshop and Painter X... I am still very dissapointed to see a lack of these two options along with some of the other main stream digital painting programs as options for "gallery type" when you browse by section. I sent in an email a while ago asking Renderosity why this was so and was told that "these programs are not primary in the creation of most works and are used for compositing...". Serious? Look around. Get your heads out of your _ _ _ _ _ (we can play hang man if you really need to) and start paying attention to the art community.