I've been working on this for a couple of days, having done some more reading I've managed to tweak the firefly rendering to cut my render times significantly (hence the recent output increase), now I'm turning stuff on like indirect lighting. this was an overnight render. Not 100% happy with it, (Miki's expression/eyes aren't to my wish) and the motorcycle may/may not work for everybody. My rig can't handle any more figures in here though, so it looks like memory upgrade time for me to try and 'step up' to more crowded environments. However, very happy with the low res traffikar props from daz, they work superbly so I shall be using them a lot to 'busy' street scenes. Dystopia corner and nexus square for the streets, but I hid the floors and used Coflek_Gnorg's street pack for the road and pavements, very nice props, easy to snap together to build the junction. May try and tweak Miki again and add some props to the street, but I don't think the computer will take much more.