Ok, I decided to work on my lighting, so I found and read a couple of web pages talking about three point lighting. Armed with my new understanding of "how it's suppose to be done" I open a character I've been working on useing freebies and Aiko4(still not sure I like her, fells like she is Aiko in name only and not in spirit) got what I felt was the best lighting I could get with the three point method, a few tweaks and test renders later I had the first image. I was just going to upload it but then I decided to see how it would compare to my normal lighting methods, so I replaced the fill and rim lights with my fake AO light I made with fourteen distantlights, hens the second image... ...I think the second one looks better. Thanks to all who comment on my work. Enjoy.