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1985 Mars Landing

Bryce Science Fiction posted on Feb 11, 2011
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1985 Mars Landing This is a follow-up to my previous posts: Boeing Manned Interplanetary Spacecraft Diagram, Entering Orbit, Boeing Manned Interplanetary Spacecraft and 1968 Manned Mars Lander. The Integrated Program Plan Mars mission called for a surface crew of four – with two crewmen remaining aboard the orbiter. The devil is in the details: I elected to go with the Apollo style EVA suit for this mission as it predates the Mark III suit development project. The suits are courtesy of NASA and photo references were used to match valve and glove colors, crew rank stripes, and patch placement. I added extra modeled detail to the suit-environmental controls, and stripped the parachute doors off the Lander model to show them post-deployment. Helmet reflections reveal the flag stand placement and even the tripod mounted camera used for this surface crew photo. As always, thank you all for your thoughtful comments, interest, and encouragement. Credits: NASA Apollo EVA Suit. Surface textures courtesy of NASA/JPL, file sources include Viking, Phoenix, Opportunity, and Spirit mission photo archives. Update: 2/21/2011 texture-background flaws corrected.

Comments (19)


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odile

3:18AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

All the elements merge so well. Zooming in, the reflections on the helmets are stunning! Well done!

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Hubert

4:25AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

Great composition/scene!

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TallPockets

4:59AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

Out of this world, GOOD!!

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Seaview123

5:03AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

If only... Excellent sci-fi picture!

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texboy

7:47AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

a wonderful image, bud! interesting that Kim Stanley Robinson (Red/Green/Blue Mars) opted to put his areonauts in a sort of heated wetsuit, rather than a full pressure apparatus.... whatever keeps you from exploding in 0.6 kPa of atmospheric pressure (1% of Earth's).... fine work all round!

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peedy

9:10AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

WOW, what an awesome image! Fantastic reflections in those helmets! Corrie

KnightWolverine

9:19AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

Excellent/Impressive Scene!..

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geirla

11:23AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

Great scene! You've done a wonderful job with the Mars surface! From Spirit and Opportunity photos, I presume.

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thecytron

11:25AM | Fri, 11 February 2011

Great scene!

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pit224

12:17PM | Fri, 11 February 2011

Very well done! Amazing sci-fi scene!

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SIGMAWORLD

3:12PM | Fri, 11 February 2011

Cool sf!

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steve.ruzicka

8:23PM | Fri, 11 February 2011

While the surface structure is nice, the scene gives me a feeling of being overly static. It results from the posture of the crew. Each of them seems to be a duplicate (or copy) of the others. The perspective seems also skewed: the right hand side crew member is too large. Sorry, this image does not compare well with earlier work.

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duo

9:03AM | Sat, 12 February 2011

Great image and very NASA feeling! I really like it! BRAVO!

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Bambam131

2:28PM | Mon, 14 February 2011

I think that you did a pretty good job on this images but there are a few things that you may want to take a look at. The little boulder on the left side of the astronauts is duplicated in the back. There is a line that needs to be removed behind the 2 astronauts on the left, it is right above the top of their boots. In addition, the shadows of the rocks on the right side of the astronauts is casting a shadow to the left while the astronauts are casting their shadows to the right. Overall I think you have done an excellent job and believe me when I say that creating the surface of Mars and the atmosphere is quite a job and you have done a great job. Just a few minor details to clean up. The ship itself looks great in the background as well as the flag reflection in the astronauts helmets visors. All the best, David

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wblack

3:40PM | Mon, 14 February 2011

steve.ruzicka began to comment on my work only after I began posting comment and critique on Left-leaning posts in World Events and Social Commentary – his comments do not appear before this time period – and his comment s only appear in response, after I comment in opposition to the radical, socialist, or progressive Left -- from this motivation can be clearly discerned. Consider my message, the entire theme of this series of posts, and my recent editorializing in regard to them: the message is about how freedom empowers the individual, how men who chose to work together for mutual benefit labor in a great cause: they build the future, a future of wealth and prosperity for all who choose to seize their moment. This has long been a subtext in my work. I envision that through the large approach to building a space-based infrastructure, and spreading mankind to the far ends of the solar-system, we will in time see the creation of a vastly increased market place, and vastly increased wealth and prosperity for all. I am certain steve.ruzicka and his Leftist friends can find much to loath here. steve.ruzicka's initial comments on my posts were accompanied by a tirade demanding that if I did not stop my political commentary he would remove me from his favorites. The equivalent of a 15 year old girl slamming the door to her room and screaming “I hate you!” I responded that he should remove me from his favorites at once. Freedom to speak is absolute: isn’t it interesting that those who engage in productive work with an objective goal always seem to have something of substance to say – while those on the Left only speak to demand that others remain silent? Failing that they resort to fits of emotion. It’s not that the Left doesn’t know anything – it’s that so much of what they know is simply wrong, being unsupported by empirical evidence or even evidence of reasoned thought – this being the case here, I will demonstrate as I answer what attempts to pass for critique on this image. Static :– it’s a still photo of a crew posing before their capsule … i.e. (explanation for idiots): it’s a staged photo-shoot, it’s intended to look staged. The figures are wearing identical suits which obscure their faces. No one is moving – of course it’s static – it’s static by design. Posture: The astronaut suits are a NASA 3DS resource – they cannot be posed – The posture of the suit accurately reflects the posture of a man wearing an Apollo era Lunar EVA suit. They are held stiff by internal pressure -- by design. A man wearing one cannot possibly adopt a natural posture. Duplicates:Of course they look like duplicates – they are duplicates, copies of one 3DS model. The source of this 3DS model is clearly stated in the image description – a knowledgeable individual would understand the implications of this fact. Perspective: The perspective would be skewed if the astronaut on the right and the astronaut on the far left were standing at the same distance from the camera in a parallel line – but they are not: the astronaut on the right is standing closer, clearly ahead of the man on the far left. This is clear on even casual examination . steve.ruzicka’s comments on perspective reveal that he knows nothing about perspective. Constructive criticism draws on the visual facts of an image – clearely what steve.ruzicka has offered is not intended as constructive criticism. NASA EVA gear is not personalized, so in fact, the suits not only look identical to each other – they are identical. To this NASA stock resource I have added modeled detail. Material has been applied using photographic references to accurately indicate NASA rank-stripes and Apollo-style valve colors. I have applied mission badges and the American flag to correct locations on the suits, and here, perhaps, is where we find what might be the source of this individuals dislike: could it be that it is the flag which this Leftist finds objectionable? Note: the focus of the image is seen in the helmet visor reflections: the American flag raised above the sands of Mars – an emblem for the future, an indication of national pride and accomplishment. Not everyone shares my vision, least of all the radical Left. The wealth produced in a society (by the productive labor and trade between its members) sets the lower limit of both the standard and quality of life. You cannot elevate the masses by tearing down the producers, Limiting success does not create equity; it spreads poverty to all. My work and your support of my work places the Left on notice: their days are numbered.

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wblack

3:46PM | Mon, 14 February 2011

Thanks David! Those are elements which can be repaired, and as I work on my next post I will repair those defects and post the corrected image. Bambam131 comes through with an example of real constructive criticism -- a welcome thing after the nonsense steve.ruzicka offered. To know that your work is seen by thoughtful and knowledgeable eyes ...It is appreciated.

dcmstarships

12:54PM | Tue, 15 February 2011

It would have been a tremendous achievement it we could have made it to Mars in 1985. I am sorry it did not turn out that way.

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1358

4:05PM | Sun, 10 April 2011

nice staged perspective, gives an illusion to the size and depth of the lander in the background. what more could thee ask for?

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wtchtower

11:24AM | Mon, 18 April 2011

Hwoowww!!!! awesome


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