Well, here we are! These were rendered in poser, after many, many attempts after rendering in poser the result finally came out mostly OK. Poser is bad, bad, bad! When importing my models into poser it flips my UVs, then when I finally think I have the problem resolved it does it again. I hates POSER! What renders beautifully in my modeler application & in vue, is completely buggered in poser, did I mention I hate poser... These aren't rigged, cuz when I tried rigging these it was a total fiasco! So here we are ladies and germs ;), rendered with textures & props, my officer hat for some reason wasn't coming out correctly in poser so I cheated a bit & used panko's hat (retextured)with the enfield revolver & holster for the tanker, every thing else is mine. These are being rigged for the poser Dork, for now, the simple reason being that they are low poly & allow for more figures, ie: all six figures were made at the same time & poser had no problems dealing with them, with m4 it just wouldn't work. Just thought I'd post these to show there is progress although slow. Back to the drawing board as they say, will get back to poser & try to rig my models. Thx for viewing & comments are always welcome.