Sticky Situation by Lenord

Fractal • Alternative • posted on Oct 10, 2011

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Mandelbulb3D/PS7 Been pondering whether or not I wanted to post this or any other image on Rendo anymore. Myself and many others here Freely share our parameters for MB3D for others to use and learn from, we do so knowing and expecting them to be used. We also know and understand there is bound to be similiarities between our creations and those of of others due to intermingling and manipulating the same formulas, that's the nature of the Fractal game. I do not however expect to see someones Posted Parameters copied essentially verbatim with nothing more than a slight change of Position or Zoom and the Gradient/Maps changed and then RePosted. That has happened to me twice now by two dfifferent people in just over a week here, I know MB3D very well and know how easy it is to change starting params and make a completely different creation, just basically copying someeone elses work is unecessary not to mention Wrong. I have been giving away my params for a long time and have used many others params as well and I have not and will not ever just take someone elses work and just change Zoom, tweak the angle and pull out a different Box of Crayons to color it then Post it. I saw this same thing getting bad at DA also, so bad most of the Best MB3D artists there have stopped posting their Params now, they will give them to you if you ask but you will only get them if you are not one of those that drove them to stop posting them in the first place. I considered not posting my parameters anymore but I don't want to do that, don't want to get that attitude started here, it's a Sticky Situation and needn't be, when using someone elses params hit Reset Pos and Zoom after loading them, find your own shot, it's easy. Mandelbulb3Dv17{ S....UW0...33...ET...2A...Uw3smePXFxz8roKe0cTCxjc1WDo2xgOwPLcXzaJmQuzsqZtw4EA/zj ................................4.viQ6Yrb.2........Y./.................kG/2..... ................/sE1/....6.Y3...V/...2E4.....gcn.09U66lD/..........m/dkpXm1....I //U0LDGD12../2.s2g7xoRNpzkMbC.IZsGyjDu22kIzMZz9............u1....y1...sD...../.. .wHnAnIDT9UcLCsOsw1..........2DOSIMD/Eaju5k0XrcVTtHfoPaAS8V9zgZzzW/sxAnD7WCenIfc MtniooZ4UrnAzOV7VzWbGsmD.....0Y4z.............kD.2....sD..kz0................... .............oAnAr1...sD......JRe4.wpdO.EObe/.nRe4.ordO.kVbe/.FSe4.............. ..................kzsFeXl/Eb.Y8.J....61...kL....K/Ea562..UEE....7/...Ynm...UJPCH ..Ef.4cc590M6/nBC4rKBhgW1/U.0c..zrheJ.coK/nl2xvj.y8pJs/mpz1U..........W78.kgqG5. todIWOor/zH15T51vojwz0..........UAU0.QfjO0kKilEhAIrpzOxuvBTuCfxj..........E.0c.. zzzz.................................2U.8.kzzzD................................. 06U0.wzzzL/U..........6..........0...........YaWw0kTJt0.zz/jdJ7.HG7Z.szDoVdf.EuV m.EzTB5ZA0.8k21.Qs5icq3.vZ5S..bTjhIF.6bIp..lyxccg0Eiih0.MwLika2..nq5.kqTx/aI.IrF R..kztNHz/.rsS7....y3q/.zz/k.1A.yz1yAT2.xzpaqa9.hZKMhZ4AqwZMtxZEZlqPfZrLnFrPXhaM E....E....E.....I....c....EHZtqNZ7rA..pPrJaQ..............................U/4MU/ 4M.................../........zD........kz1........wz........................... ................................................................................ .....................6.....3....5....wZOplKOVVbA................................ ...............................E........Uz1........sz...........nAnAnAnArz9..... ................................................................................ ................................4....E/.........0JaPZBLOn.pPr71................. ........................................U.2..................................... ................................................................................ ..........................................E.....I.........kLHZaPN/.............. ...................................................6./.......................... ................................................................................ ........................................................}

Comments (25)

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VEDES

1:41AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Excellent work!!!!!!!!!!!!

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fallen21

2:50AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Beautiful fractal!

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ia-du-lin

3:06AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

beautiful wave structures, nice work

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TerraCr8tor

3:30AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

You are completely right, As I speak for myself, I always change the parameters in that way so that the new fractal is diferent to the posted one. This one is a very nice fractal, like the colors

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eekdog Online Now!

7:18AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

structurely beautiful len.

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wotan

7:27AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Impressive... lovely colors and details when zoomed!

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greyone

7:42AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Awesome image Len. I also always share my parameters and have learned a lot from exploring your paramters as well as those of other folks that share them so freely. There was 1 time a few weeks ago i posted an image with mostly just the map changed but I also said right in the description it was estentially still your basic image but I wanted to put sassy's image in the maps so she showed up in the balls. If I had not mentioned whose image it was made from I feel that would have been improper, but giving the credit to the original author is simular to folks that use Poser and list credits at the bottom for the models and props they use in their scenes. Your work here at Renderosity has inspired a large number of us and we would be very much a poorer site without your input.

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Lenord

8:06AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

I know the image you mention Jim but you didn't just chnge Maps, you also ballanced the image, mine was unballanced yours not. It's not one I am talking about and it's not the first time for the ones I am speaking of. It is not like Poser/Daz and giving Credits for Props or Characters used in an original creation, it's still an original no matter whose Content you use in the image. I give credits for any params I use even if I have changed it so much it could never be linked to the original without a road map, at least I try to. Using a basically straight copy is different and then denying it when confronted is just plain Wrong.

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cjn

8:07AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

fantastic..it's like a dragon!!!

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peedy

8:42AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

I am 100% with you, Len. I hope you were at least credited? And that you did confront them. But please, keep posting here! I really would miss you. And your fantastic images, like this one. Corrie

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barryjeffer

8:48AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Sorry to learn this Lenord... it seems like anyone could take the basic structure you offer and tweek, bend, color, (whatever it is that artists do with factals). But to intentional take you developed images and parameters and simply repost them as their own is completely wrong. Best of luck stopping them from doing it again my friend. Don't stop posting though... it wouldn't be the same here without certain contibutors and you are high on that list. seth

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Faemike55

8:49AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Very cool work, Len, and good rant

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Glendaw

9:54AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

I see a alligator ready to swipe and swallow the first nearest victim. Maybe because I saw a program on tv. about this last night and I'm not fully awake yet. !!! Well Len I don't have a hot clue about mb3d art and paramters. You most certainly should be concerned and voice your opinion. I have mentioned several times to Jim and possibly here how nice it is of people to share their params for other's to use. I have noticed you have given credit where credit is due. To me other's should give the same respect.

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Lenord

10:12AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

It's not about credits, it's about basically posting the exact same image from the posted params and just changing colors and BG, that don't fly with or without Credit.

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carlx

11:18AM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Wonderful tones, details and light!!!

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farmerC

12:53PM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Shining.

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Danny_G

1:24PM | Mon, 10 October 2011

nice rich color Len

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Black-Carrie

2:15PM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Fantastic work again!

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alida

3:28PM | Mon, 10 October 2011

great fractal:) and ty for the input on"Reset Pos and Zoom after loading " You are really generous

dayna2

3:30PM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Solution Len stop giving things away for free is there a place to sell your prams, and include a disclosure for use, and it is the mouth of a giant work about to swallow the earth. And on the statement (It is not like Poser/Daz and giving Credits for Props or Characters used in an original creation) LOL when you use one person props and another person background throw in a vicky really how original is the creation.

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RodolfoCiminelli

5:16PM | Mon, 10 October 2011

Splendid work.....!!!!

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cricke49

1:10AM | Tue, 11 October 2011

len i am so sorry for this quagmire we're in, i never intentually set out to destroy your work i was jus wondering why in your image i was missing stuff, you're right about the exact same shot, but the two images are completely different after that, you might as well jus point my name out for this problem and call me a copy cat, peace out! this is an excellent render!:)*

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adrie

7:31AM | Tue, 11 October 2011

Very cool golden colord fractal design Len, as always excellent work.

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Lenord

7:54AM | Tue, 11 October 2011

@cricke49 The 2 images were not completely different, there is no quagmire for me I didn't do anything and You are only one to mentioned you name...feeling guilty

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Avalonne

5:17PM | Fri, 14 October 2011

Sweetie, it is unfortunate that people can take advantage of another artists generosity, but I am glad that you have chosen the high road and are still willing to share your parameters...and this image is as amazing as you yourself are :-)