I only uploaded this to reply to a couple of comments I had with my last image " a dying star ". Wirepaladin and Danny_Gordon, I thought your comments were flattering however to set the record straight I do not own a flash photo editor, adobie or the like, as for a double render I would not know how to go about it, that is the first time I have heard of it. My copy of Mojoworld is just that a copy I was given, it came with no instuctions or user guide or serial number so it can't be registered, I can't use some features of the program or get access to Mojoworld or any downloads etc. Every thing I do with this program is hit & miss and self taught. I enjoy working with what I have limited as it may be, every now and then I do an image that stands out. I would not know if any image I see on Renderosity is doctored or not I don't have an eye for that sort of evaluation. Thanks for looking.