Well here I am again, tinkering once more, learned a bit more, made a big error and found out that at times its not as hard as it seems, yes has its direct challenges, a steady hand, at the helm so to speak and a good mind plot to make a scene work. I suspect I knew this anyway but you never really know until you do. Yes I left the light directional arrows in, quess I was caught in the moment of it, but its what I did and well did learn something. Anyway what can I say its some what of an improvement over the last one, flawed but better, even learned a bit about lighting....... ...thanks for the peek