The lads on the outside are the first sculpture I did with Zbrush (I think version 3 is where I jumped on the ride) They are identical because I just mirrored one to the other side in the World Famous Photoshop. Sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference between efficiency and laziness. In this instance I don't think there is any difference. The centermost fellow is a bird's eye view of my second sculpture. I whittle and sculpt stuff like with my actual hands in wood and assorted clays and pieces of failed electronics that my son and I disassemble from time to time so some portions of Zbrush are just peas and carrots to me. What I do is a method that um.. seems to have disappeared from the site closely associated with Zbrush (carefully not including a dot com or dot net lest I get whacked on the nose with a rolled newspaper. I hate when that happens). But as I remember he didn't really explain the system himself but I gathered from his screen shots the procedure. Unfortunately a squirrel ran by and flipped me the bird.. Attention Forgetful disorder is easier to spell than the other. I'm out.