a grande dedi

Couldn't have said it better. Tragedy. Ignorant foolishness. There is so much of it out and about these days. Well done Mark.

Very beautiful tribute. powerful words. unfortunately those who need to hear them will not bother to listen.

Indeed yes.

"... we still haven't learned a damn thing..." And that's the sad truth!

My sentiments too Mark. I think the Russians have destroyed what evidence there might have been and using the rebels to keep investigators out thereby shifting any blame.

My prayers to the victims and their family... Much sadness has happen...

I think the Russians have destroyed what evidence there might have been and using the rebels to keep investigators out thereby shifting any blame. are you wrelie thinking that? giving the rusians the blame? 1980s: U.S. trains Osama bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill Soviets. CIA gives them $3 billion. 1981: Reagan administration trains and funds the Contras. 30,000 Nicaraguans die. 1982: U.S. provides billions of dollars in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians. 1983: The White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis. and duth seller van anraat troe switserland sels chemicals to sadam hoesein to kil and gas many peaple, 1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriega (also serving as President of Panama) disobeys orders from Washington. U.S. invades Panama and removes Noriega. 3,000 Panamanian civilian casualties. 1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from U.S. 1991: U.S. enters Iraq. Bush reinstates dictator of Kuwait. 1998: Clinton bombs possible weapons factory in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin. 1991 to present:2001 American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis. U.N. estimates 500,000 Iraqi children die from bombing and sanctions. 2000-2001: U.S. gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in aid. Sept. 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden uses his expert? CIA training to murder 3,000 people,,, also in us terms collateral damage and what doe we do jes we kill more than 1 miljen iraqi peaple,that had nothing to do whit the thing happend in the usa, and stil we dont lurn nothing, the usa and his western liberal thingking asbleeps are just the same the netherlands/dutch parties lay about the iraqi just like bush and his bleepholes just like blair just like the navo, and stil thay are walking around,when doe we give them 3 minutes to say goodbay? we sell chemicals toe saddam and now to syria and israel and still we dont do nothing. nooo we give others the blame doeing the same thing as the duch and the uk and france germany and that usa remember the cuba crisis, the rockets close to the usa,whell the navo usa etz are doeing just that in those eastern country's ,,the missel shield thai call it, and this plane crash is the resold of this,fucking game the navo and the usa is plaing.nothing more, so dont point to others when jou just doeing the same.lething the reel criminals like bush like blair like rasmussen and many party members in my country the netherlands,live

Engels is mijn moedertaal, maar ik dit aan u in het Nederlands als een overweging. Misschien wist u niet volledig begrijpen mijn commentaar. Ik presenteerde de feiten. Het vliegtuig werd neergeschoten. De gids naar Bali en Lombok werd gevonden in Oost-Oekraïne op de crash site. Uitte ik mijn verdriet en woede over het verlies van het leven. Niet een keer had ik al gezegd wie kon hebben gedaan deze. Ik zei persoon of personen. Dat kan iedereen zijn. Je hebt gelijk boos op de misdaden die je vermeld te zijn. Dat ben ik ook. Maar dat is geen excuus voor wat er met dit vliegtuig. Evenmin doet dat verbieden mensen in het westen uit te wijzen dat er een misdrijf hier is gepleegd.

wysiwig ith was not against you ,,het was niet tegen jou ;-) i live in holland and i am angry about this,becos it is a game,from the nleping elite and again innesand people are the victems , and the all of the western world is pointing to rusia becos thay diliver the weapens? buth the netherlands and the usa give effery year miljens of dollars to that israel,etz etz. thay blame the hole word buth not them self, thay gife chemicals to country's like syrie,that dith the same wit saddam,long ago, thay poet in effery new country that joins europa,, poland etz ,the rockets from the usa,close to the borders of rusia. whell remember the cuba crisis,the rusians dith the same thing. and the usa was reddy to bom europa/rusia buth i am fetup whit al the lai's about irak about afghanistan,,the last country 2000-2001 the usa give talliban ruled afghanistan 245 milj in aid?? and the real crimminals are living in thare big houses etz. so again it is nothing agains you.

Wonderful tribute and such an awful loss.

"And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight Where ignorant armies clash by night" The world has seemed very much like the last 3 lines of Matthew Arnold's 'Dover Beach' lately. Children shot down from the sky, bombed in their playgrounds, kidnapped from their schools. Ignorant armies causing pain and death. Nation states unable or unwilling to do anything about it. It is not just children and it is not just lately. Spin the ages and point at any moment when there were humans; it would be the same. Somewhere on Planet Earth there would be humans killing humans. Life would be cheap; disposable to a careless act. Most of the time I would say that mankind has improved, albeit sluggishly, in fits and starts, with egregious backsliding now and then. I still believe it to be true, but I haven't felt it to be true lately. This is a beautiful tribute. Very well said,